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Old April 10th, 2012, 08:56 AM
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Old April 10th, 2012, 10:35 AM
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I think it pops up more often or perhaps is just more salient in our community because many new courses are started with the parks dept. mindset of getting shenanigans (drug deals, hookups, homeless, hoodie-wearers, etc.) out of the park. This often leads to an "us versus them" mindset which pits disc golfers against others in the struggle for a potential new course - seems like a fairly natural progression by which this mindset could extend beyond the installation date. Not saying it is or isn't the case as I only have anecdotal data, but seems very plausible that this would be more likely in our group compared with others.
I've seen disc golf used as a selling point for clearing out homelessness and drug use in a park, but never for homosexuality.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 10:40 AM
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Maybe it is more of an East Coast thing, one of my absolute favorite all-time disc golf courses - Iron Hill - was installed for this very reason.

People's Park seems to be another similar example in Washington, although I am not versed in the history or details of that park...
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Old April 10th, 2012, 12:34 PM
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Maybe it is more of an East Coast thing, one of my absolute favorite all-time disc golf courses - Iron Hill - was installed for this very reason.

People's Park seems to be another similar example in Washington, although I am not versed in the history or details of that park...
People's park WAS.... it kept being vandalized and buckets destroyed/thrown in the river... I wonder by who? It has now been put on the back burner due to other projects taking priority.

As far as this whole issue goes... I do feel you make some good points silly and I have no problem whatsoever with the GLBT community as a people in general and am against anybody discriminating against them, but I do have major issues with the way they go about "meeting" each other.

You said you have seen more straight couples messing around than gays in public, well I'm sorry but that just isn't true in Spokane. At least as far as the areas on or around our disc golf courses are concerned.

High Bridge (and People's Park when it was active) is the prime example. This area has long been known and proven to be a gay meetup spot for "crusiers" as you put it. Well as another has said, this is not something practiced by men and women looking to hook up. I play a lot of evening and night golf at High Bridge. And I can attest that as disc golfers begin to clear out, others quickly move in. The VERY poor road running through High Bridge park has ZERO reason to be driven on other than to access the park. Well people drive that thing nonstop in the evening hours into the night. I can't help but see that it is virtually entirely men driving back and forth back and forth. Huh. I find it quite humorous and sad at the same time. There is no denying that this is a place to look for drugs and/or sex. This is not ok. I am trying to get my family and young niece and nephew involved in this awesome sport and I sadly do not feel comfortable taking them to several of the places I love.

I personally have been approached by more than one person clearly not looking for a disc golf partner in the evening. So have my friends. Whatever.

I don't know what point I want to make in the end... but I do feel that if there is actually a higher level of negative talk among disc golfers about the gay community, well as long as they continue to do these types of things in and around our disc golf courses, they are just setting themselves up for that talk. I don't agree with that talk but I also don't agree with what is going on while I am trying to sink a putt.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 12:43 PM
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BTW - isn't this one of the very topics that made Parks interwebz famous:
Wat? I'm not sure what you're referencing in regards to me.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 04:44 PM
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Wat? I'm not sure what you're referencing in regards to me.
The quote they pulled from DGR from 'Parks' - I made a guess that was probably the same 'Parks' from Spokane, with the same avatar pic etc. - unless you've got a doppelgänger
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Old April 10th, 2012, 05:20 PM
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Oh wow, I just skimmed the top portion of that blog post and decided it wasn't worth reading. I didn't even see that part. I thought you were referring to the thread that Silly linked in the original post that had some comments from me, and I was confuzzled.

"I urge you to examine some of theposts on one of the most commented on forums at discgolfreview.com, "Gays serving open in the military" (http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16374&st=o&sk=t&sd=a) The overwhelming support to put our nation's openly gay on the front line may just be disc golf's conspiratorial attempt at a legal form of execution, leaving the dirty work to our enemy combatants. Though many of the disc golfers appear to be following the trend, some feel like Parks, a forum poster on 2/03/10 who wrote, "I don't want some dude watching my ass instead of covering my six. How can you shoot straight with a limp wrist?" What I take from this is that Parks wants a dude to cover his six... This isn't surprising as Park's tag line on every post is, "We're at our best when it's from our hips", hmm. Maybe the gays are rubbing off on some disc golfers after all. (Perhaps Parks would be well served by the note on 4/15/08 regarding FAQ 2006.15 of the PDGA's officials rules, Kneeling on a towel. "One may use a towel or small pad (with a maximum compressed thickness of 1 centimeter) in order to prevent harm/abrasion to the body during competitive play." (http://www.pdga.com/files.documents/RulesQ&A.pdf))"

I don't think that the person who writes that blog understands that DGR is mostly people joking around and poking fun at serious people. Hence the next person in the thread posting the laughing emoticons.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 08:07 PM
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I think it pops up more often or perhaps is just more salient in our community because many new courses are started with the parks dept. mindset of getting shenanigans (drug deals, hookups, homeless, hoodie-wearers, etc.) out of the park. This often leads to an "us versus them" mindset which pits disc golfers against others in the struggle for a potential new course - seems like a fairly natural progression by which this mindset could extend beyond the installation date. Not saying it is or isn't the case as I only have anecdotal data, but seems very plausible that this would be more likely in our group compared with others.
Thank you Andrew I'm not always great with words and getting a point across but this is exactly right.
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