Disc Golf (Vs.?) And The Gay Community

[sillybizz]

Originally Posted by Wes Hansen

I believe the original poster started the thread because he felt discriminated against.
The way people approach the topic says a lot about their attitude towards gay people.

QFT

[Joshua Olmsted]

Thanks so much for bringing these issues to the fore Sillybizz, as well as sharing your personal perspective with the forum. While on the whole I love the disc golf community here in the NW, I've definitely met people with homophobic attitudes on the course, and not just among casual players. I'd definitely agree that people will often let their views out more in anonymous and/or private spaces, the most openly anti-LGBT comments I hear usually come in situations where I, for example, join up with a random group of friends on a course, since they are in their own private company (myself excluded) more unfiltered opinions come out than say, 4 random people in a tournament group.

[Denny]

There is no issue to bring to the fore Josh that was just the ravings of a lunatic seeking attention.
(The blogger not you sillybizz)

Of course there are probably homophobic people in the DG community but SO WHAT that's their problem right?

[Wes Hansen]

QFT?

[sillybizz]

Originally Posted by Wes Hansen

QFT?

Sorry - Quoted For Truth.

[REDFIVE]

Thomas, I am shocked. I didn't know people actually liked lady gaga.

[Parks]

I think that we should try to put DG courses in places where people group up and listen to Lady Gaga so that they have to find somewhere else to do this unseemly practice.

[REDFIVE]

I do find listening to lady gaga to be more offensive than dudes picking up dudes. Unintended hijack. Even though I only read the first post and nothing more this is what stuck with me.

[sillybizz]

I antcipated some joking, denial and maybe some out right disagreements involving this thread but what I hadn't thought of was the amazing amount of people who have sent me messages on this subject showing their support and courage. I've even already had someone thank me in person for bringing this subject up. There are lots of LGBT Disc Golfers in our sport and I believe it's important for them to know they are not alone and that there is support from other people out there regardless of orientation. We don't have to be quiet and we don't have to be in the closet!

[CMC206]

Like the many colors of the discs in my bag there are many colors in the rainbow. I'm down with all of them.

[emmarose]

... but what about us straight girls who listen to lady gaga?!? what about us? we have a right to be who we want to be and sing super silly lyrics like "gaga ooh-la-la rhumba rhum ba ba"... or however that actually goes...




seriously, tho, thomas... you are very brave and i am very glad that you have gotten the messages you have and i am pleased that the joking on the thread has stuck to just being silly and hasn't taken away from the topic nor demeaned it...

... and as far as discs and all the colors of the rainbow... i do prefer pink... but i love my blue star t-bird as much as my hot pink ittybitty blizzard katana and whatever color disc you may be it's just fine in my bag...

ummm... i apologize for that terrible metaphor... i have to go now and practice my putting...

[CMC206]

You can hear Lady Gaga on the rewindb Radio. Better yet check out all of our interviews on demand. On the right hand sidebar just click under rewind content: DG World Scenario or listen to the entire show. Help us spread the word.. CMC

http://rewindb.com/category/dg-world-scenario/

[Denny]

I would suggest you filter your sources of information a little better before you get all riled up over some BS!

[sillybizz]

Originally Posted by Denny

I would suggest you filter your sources of information a little better before you get all riled up over some BS!

You keep focusing on that like it's all I ever said. I used it as an example that maybe the sport isn't so kind to LGBT people and that they are noticing. I said some of it I do or could agree with. The issue I've brought to light is that there is homophobia in the sport, it has been there since the beginning and continues to this day. I've felt it, other people have felt it. There are many LGBT players who remain in the closet within the sport for fear of discrimination, I know this because I know some of them and some of them have revealed this to me after I started this thread, many thanking me for being vocal about the subject in which no one else is willing to be vocal about.

You are obviously very ignorant to this problem and likely part of it judging by your posts.

[Mikk]

Realy it would be great if people were more open minded (duh), there are many things we as the human race could be doing besides picking on those who are different. I just don't understand why, generaly speaking, that people single out other people for dumb reasons. We have all seen and done this, ALL of us and realy it just stinks...
and i throw pink discs, does this bother you??

[cefire]

Originally Posted by Denny

Of course there are probably homophobic people in the DG community but SO WHAT that's their problem right?

I believe the point here is that the problem extends well beyond the border of the bigoted individual...

[cefire]

BTW - isn't this one of the very topics that made Parks interwebz famous:

http://thegayshangout.blogspot.com/2010/02/discers-v-limp-wristers.html

[Denny]

Originally Posted by sillybizz

You keep focusing on that like it's all I ever said. I used it as an example that maybe the sport isn't so kind to LGBT people and that they are noticing. I said some of it I do or could agree with. The issue I've brought to light is that there is homophobia in the sport, it has been there since the beginning and continues to this day. I've felt it, other people have felt it. There are many LGBT players who remain in the closet within the sport for fear of discrimination, I know this because I know some of them and some of them have revealed this to me after I started this thread, many thanking me for being vocal about the subject in which no one else is willing to be vocal about.

You are obviously very ignorant to this problem and likely part of it judging by your posts.

Look man, you're going to get homophobia pretty much everywhere you go in this world, and that's an unfortunate reality that I hope we evolve out of as a species. People fear what they don't know or understand or they are locked into a pre programed way of thinking that is just ignorant.

I truly am sorry if you personally have felt any discrimination from the disc golf community ( or anywhere else for that matter) but I have personally found our PNW DG community to be one of the more progressive minded bunch of folks around.

I focused on that blog because if I am to believe that you read that and it "hurt your soul" it would seem to me that you are very impressionable and slightly detached from reality. Also you tend to make sweeping generalizations and assumptions,
HOW DARE YOU call me an ignorant homophobe

You need to find some peace in yourself brother

Try investing in a sense of humor it may keep you from assuming people like me are homophobic and that the disc golf community are out to get gay people.

Again 99.9% of people don't care who you stick your dick in, just be yourself.

[Scott]

Maybe I'm just blind to the issue, but is this really a thing? Yes, I'm sure bigotry exists towards GLBT in disc golf just as it does in all other walks of life.

Are you proposing that there is more bigotry in the disc golf community than in other areas?

[cefire]

I think it pops up more often or perhaps is just more salient in our community because many new courses are started with the parks dept. mindset of getting shenanigans (drug deals, hookups, homeless, hoodie-wearers, etc.) out of the park. This often leads to an "us versus them" mindset which pits disc golfers against others in the struggle for a potential new course - seems like a fairly natural progression by which this mindset could extend beyond the installation date. Not saying it is or isn't the case as I only have anecdotal data, but seems very plausible that this would be more likely in our group compared with others.