Originally Posted by Yoduh
There are NO bikers in danger with or current layout!! Do not pretend that there are!! You know first hand that I carefully consider any and all danger before putting ANYTHING up that I expect people to play. I would never allow in my craziest nightmare design something as dangerous as Downriver. You do shoot near and over trails. The line of sight is always such that you can see where anybody might be. We play over paths at Downriver and at HB. All golfers know that you have to wait until any person is clear for you to throw. It's common sense.
Jeremy, we'd like to have a very nice, fun, safe course there. Maybe two of them, or maybe a 27 holer. Whatever "the club" decides to do, it's obviously NOT going to be what's already there. There are things you aren't taking under consideration. Several/many of the holes are in unusable areas, whether Jeff was there or not. Your reasoning of designing a dangerous course because we already have one, doesn't hold water. None of us want to injure a biker, walker, or other disc golfer, so one of the TOP priorities in the course design will be safety. Agree? Or are you just going to be obstinate about YOUR current design as being the best thing ever?
I'd like to see you work on the design, but it would be nice to see you work WITH the club, rather than against it.
As far a a meeting with Mike Aho, we actually got some solid information for a change, instead of what you and Jeff decide WE need to know. Apparently, what you and Jeff "know" isn't quite right, so try to understand and work within the parameters.