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Old July 15th, 2011, 12:46 PM
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Eh, I'm red/green colorblind too.. and while I need someone to help me find my red discs on even short-cut grass, I had no problem spotting the baskets.
same here. can't find my red or pink discs in the short grass but i didn't have a problem with the baskets... however, color blindness works differently for different people so maybe jonesy really did have a legitimate concern... or maybe he just hadn't heard enough griping about the fling and didn't want hagerty and mittl to think they'd actually done as damn fine a job as anyone could have hoped for or expected...

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Old July 15th, 2011, 12:54 PM
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Eh, I'm red/green colorblind too.. and while I need someone to help me find my red discs on even short-cut grass, I had no problem spotting the baskets.
Strongly colorblind people might only be able to tell about 20 hues apart from each other, with normal color vision this number raises to more than 100 different hues. Severity of color blindness is usually divided into the following four categories: slightly, moderate, strong, and absolute. So I am happy that you could see them, but for the other color deficient folks, like myself, do have a problem seeing them. Just facts of life, I am not saying they should be changed or that every color deficient person cant see them. I was just saying that I have a problem with those color combinations.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 02:14 PM
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Yeah, my dad had the same issue when he came out to spectate, he finally gave up and went home. I feel bad for those that have difficulties with colors!
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Old July 15th, 2011, 02:22 PM
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I'm pretty sure that there is no color that could be used that wouldn't cause someone to complain.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 03:08 PM
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I'm pretty sure that there is no color that could be used that wouldn't cause someone to complain.
That is sad and probably true. I was not trying to complain, I was just letting people know that it is a problem for a portion of us to actually see that color. I think yellow is a great color and has been fairly successful in being used for baskets for a while. Really gray is fine with me, I just feel Jonesys pain.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 04:31 PM
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The reason white is used for marking many green grass sports fields is it's one of the best colors for color blind athletes and, more importantly officials, to see. We always try to use white paint for marking OB, temp tees and directional arrows on the grass for that reason. The advice is actually in the How to Run a PDGA Event document at the end of Appendix A on page 7:
http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/How%20To%20Run%20PDGA%20Event%20112108.pdf
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Old July 15th, 2011, 04:40 PM
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The PDGA is looking out for us color blind folks. White is a great idea for markers. I am sure white baskets are not popular because of how they look once they are slightly weathered. Thanks PDGA for thinking of us color blind disc golfers.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 05:33 PM
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I think white baskets would be less popular due to vandalism.
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Old July 16th, 2011, 01:06 PM
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im not colorblind. ugh. "Human color perception is dependent upon the interaction of all receptor cells with light, and this combination results in nearly trichromic stimulation. There are shifts in color sensitivity with variations in light levels, so that blue colors look relatively brighter in dim light and red colors look brighter in bright light. This effect can be observed by pointing a flashlight onto a color print, which will result in the reds suddenly appearing much brighter and more saturated. In recent years, consideration of human color visual sensitivity has led to changes in the long-standing practice of painting emergency vehicles, such as fire trucks and ambulances, entirely red. Although the color is intended for the vehicles to be easily seen and responded to, the wavelength distribution is not highly visible at low light levels and appears nearly black at night." -Florida State University optical science web site. http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/lightandcolor/humanvisionintro.html
dark red was a bad choice for all normal people to be able to see when the basket is shaded. they really stand out well when they're in the sun though. over half of the basket placements, however, are not in the sun.
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Old July 16th, 2011, 01:11 PM
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another study i found done by the BLM or someone similar found that overwhelmingly florescent pink was the most noticed color against a forest backdrop for tree flagging. hot pink discs are impossible to lose!
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To the jeffs, please do not be personally offended by my dislike of red baskets. i also think purple, dark blue, brown, black or most greens would've been bad choices.
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Old July 16th, 2011, 08:37 PM
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People are proud of the Beaver State Fling and Milo McIver and they just want to make it better each year, thus the comments and constructive criticism.

But if you really want to help out instead of just commenting on a forum send your comments or suggestions to the TD's when they can make the changes. If you have course ideas come out early in the planning year and make suggestions and help get them done. If every one took interest in the course with just one hole the course would be that much better next year.
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they're both on this forum.
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Old July 18th, 2011, 05:02 PM
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To the jeffs, please do not be personally offended by my dislike of red baskets. i also think purple, dark blue, brown, black or most greens would've been bad choices.
Maybe they should have had big yellow flags sticking out of the tops of the baskets.

Wouldn't that be great?
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Old July 18th, 2011, 07:48 PM
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FYI: The players who carded a "3" on E14 were:

Jere Eshelman
Paul Ulibarri
Dana Vicich

Mad props to these guys. That is quite an accomplishment.
Seriously! I feel pretty damn good about taking a 5 on it!
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Seriously! I feel pretty damn good about taking a 5 on it!
At least you can get a 5 on it! I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
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Old July 18th, 2011, 10:00 PM
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At least you can get a 5 on it! I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
Why...You were lucky to have a grave!
(oh and by the way, a solid 7 seems to be my favorite score on that hole)
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Old July 18th, 2011, 10:22 PM
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And clearly so are you!
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