Originally Posted by Sam
Bushes beaten around: 0.
Is bagging something that has happened in TDG for years? Uh... yes. Is it part of the game? Uh... yes. I spoke with Camo about this subject yesterday and he proudly proclaimed that Rockwood does this when they are winning or losing big. And hey... they won the thing, I believe, so this is actually an effective tactic should one wish to employ it. Do I think Rockwood cheated? Hell no and I will defend them their right to bag until the rules are changed such as to disallow it.
And I do not believe that there should be RULES changes, more like some slight tinkering with how the ratings are calculated should be enough to limit this tactic. (And I am not sure that I disagree with the tactic in the first place.)
Let me tell a little story about the history of TDG. Way back in the day when only the hardcore crazies showed up, the morning matches were all doubles. And a good system for handicapping doubles matches is very hard to come up with. We tried a number of different options, the first of which was add the two ratings together and divide by two. This gave a huge advantage to the dubs team that could field a 1000 rated Pro and an 800 rated Am. They would take almost every shot by the Pro and crush the two 900 rated Ams who had to play them straight up.
So we changed the way we handled the dubs matches to try to make them a more fair battle. But in the end, to help the singles ratings be the most accurate they could be, we limited the dubs to 2 per match. This gave us more data points for singles ratings, and the correspondingly more accurate singles ratings, but did not do away with the dubs entirely.
But in reality, when you are on a roll in a match and all of your drives are workin and the basket looks as big as a barn and all of your putts are falling, it is very hard to dial it back. But it is in your best interest, in a handicapped league, to NOT post your best round ever. Unless it represents your new level of play, because you will be expected by your rating to shoot that from now on or you will lose matches.
Sorry I posted so much, but I am fascinated by this stuff.