Originally Posted by Yoduh
Rollers? Where in the Inland Northwest can you throw rollers? I can think of a handful of holes and only one in the whole spokane area. Fourmounds has a ton of bomber super long holes, never thought once that I wish I could throw a roller.. although it would be nice Gordo if your listening
The difference you described is the difference between a real challenge (Seatac) and a putt putt thumber topia. One course is serious and the other isn't. I feel like DBD single black diamond is a course that takes it's foot off of your head after you finish hole 18. That being said it is fair and it DOES not reward distance, it does reward accuracy. Take Yoduhs Yawn for instance. I've seen a large number of golfers take out their driver for this 600 foot hole and throw something that hits the middle trees or hyzers out. They get beat to snot trying to get up the left side of the fairway.. The Shot.. I throw a Roc or a putter from the tee that will fly like a left hander threw it and get to the landing area.. Find your next route (there are several) throw a beat firebird or a newish teebird into the base of the hill, hit my putt and move on.. Occasionally I will land short but still be in the middle. When this happens there is a huge righty hyzer way over the tops of the trees, that is my savior for a not quite quality drive but it's a little scary. This course was specifically built so that if a golfer could throw 330 feet, they could compete with ANYONE!
I throw a leopard on hole 1 off the tee to the landing area on the right and short. Throw a good up and get my 3 on this par 4. I've seen Ed Doppelmeyer park that hole for a 2, and I've seen him try and park it and take a 5.The course is supposed to teach you how to use control drivers and shot selection. We have such a large assortment of grip it and rip it holes in this area where even a bad drive leads to a very manageable 3. The course will repeatedly beat you down unless you learn how to control your emotions and your discs..
I guarantee you that if you played that course as often as you played your regular course you would get better faster. It makes you get so comfortable hitting lines that when you go back to your regular course the tight fairway are wide open. If you like to throw teebirds, eagles and leopards and Rocs than you will do well on this course as long as you identify where the landing areas are and you execute. Also when you find your self in trouble it is not time to be a hero very often.. Take your medicine and get back to the fairway. Like real golf. That being said I've thrown and seen some amazing upshots to get out of trouble on this course. My best score is a 54 in tourney and 53 in casual, the course record is 53 by Christian Dietrich. I know I could shoot a 48 on that course. With the SSA being over 57 a 48 would be a killer rating!
This course will get harder..
Can't wait to finish that and to get into the next one
Too many holes where "the shot" is the shot you
take... with no other shot available. You force people to play the line you enjoy without giving many real options. I sat on at leaset 5 different tees and regretted having to take a particular shot, not because it was the best option...because it was the ONLY option.
Righties and Lefties should rarely be forced on the same line for a long hole... DBD does it CONSISTENTLY.
DBD is designed to keep big arms at a handicap and to destroy non-locals... sounds about right if YOU want a great tourney rating... not the case for a ton of other amazing golfers. Seatac incorporates both accuracy and distance into different parts of the course, with a par 3 system Seatac can seem overwhelming but it never had me straining for a comfortable shot off the tee.
DBD does NOT stack up... hell, if you want a course where you need to hit lines take a page from PIER.
It has trees, it has lines, you can pick your line and if you miss it you might be screwed... not by the huge limbs strewn all over the place, not by the dead snags all round the greens, not because the fairway is overgrown, but because you missed the shot you CHOSE to take.
As for rollers, just because they aren't prevalent around our area doesn't mean a top level course shouldn't have the option in a few places... Roller opportunities are an aspect of disc golf where our local community is sorely deprived.