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Old March 4th, 2011, 11:01 PM
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just my 2 cents.. when I first started some local pro's took me under their wings and gave me 2 discs. an Aviar and a Roc. I was told to use these 2 discs for atleast 2 months BEFORE touching any drivers..This was the best advice anybody ever gave me...
I completely agree with this logic.

When I introduce a beginner I usually throw together a beginner bag with a roc, a mako, and a buzz. Then a dart, a KC aviar, a JK aviar... and a Condor just in case. I try to mix up the plastic types to let them get a feeling for the differences. Let them throw what they want.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 10:27 AM
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Go to Disc Golf Depot and buy one 180 gram dx roc.
Then, ask the owner, 'Jerry Miller', if he has some time for some pointers.
The tips you get from Miller will be priceless compared to what you payed for the disc.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 04:58 PM
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Picking up a few 'seasoned' discs should help as well. Brand new discs tend to need a little breaking in, especially if they have very much 'flashing' on the edge. Not only are used discs cheaper, but they usually feel a little better in your hand.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 05:28 PM
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picking up a few 'seasoned' discs should help as well. Brand new discs tend to need a little breaking in, especially if they have very much 'flashing' on the edge. Not only are used discs cheaper, but they usually feel a little better in your hand.
great advice............i even like to pick up a seasoned disc here and there every once and a while.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 07:00 PM
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Old March 13th, 2011, 02:14 AM
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Take me:
Former baseball and discus thrower... Threw Teebirds and Eagles right out of the gate and was throwing wraiths within a few months (side arm and tomahawk somehow). Putt and approach with candy Rhynos. Had such a weird training

Taught My wife (no sport history) with:
Leopard ultralight
Kite Ultralight
Tbird ultralight
putts with warlocks

Taught my Best Friend (also athlete) with:
Leopard
Eagle
Buzz
Wizards

It's hard to say with each person. I havn't found a disc I can't flip sidearm so I throw a lot more backhand these days (big d still comes sidearm). Was I taught wrong? Who knows...I'm a pretty competitive advanced player in my neck of the woods... could I have been amazing and awesome... we'll never know.

When I am introducing someone to the sport I always recommend Leopard, shark/mako, Eagle, and whatever feels good for putting. Leopard is your go to back hand, shark/mako can make most approach shots, eagle is your diversity disc (tomahawk, thumber, sidearm, roller even). Depending on power and history you'll have to adjust weight but most people should start lighter and go up.
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Old March 13th, 2011, 08:43 AM
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Take me:
Former baseball and discus thrower... Threw Teebirds and Eagles right out of the gate and was throwing wraiths within a few months (side arm and tomahawk somehow). Putt and approach with candy Rhynos. Had such a weird training

Taught My wife (no sport history) with:
Leopard ultralight
Kite Ultralight
Tbird ultralight
putts with warlocks

Taught my Best Friend (also athlete) with:
Leopard
Eagle
Buzz
Wizards

It's hard to say with each person. I havn't found a disc I can't flip sidearm so I throw a lot more backhand these days (big d still comes sidearm). Was I taught wrong? Who knows...I'm a pretty competitive advanced player in my neck of the woods... could I have been amazing and awesome... we'll never know.

When I am introducing someone to the sport I always recommend Leopard, shark/mako, Eagle, and whatever feels good for putting. Leopard is your go to back hand, shark/mako can make most approach shots, eagle is your diversity disc (tomahawk, thumber, sidearm, roller even). Depending on power and history you'll have to adjust weight but most people should start lighter and go up.
If you are flipping every disc while throwing you have off axis torque or bad form. I can throw under stable mid range discs like Meteors and such (yes forehand I am talking about) and get good flights out of them and not flip them over. People with sports backgrounds have more POWER right away and can throw it far; more power than form. Just because you can throw it far right away doesn't mean you are using proper technique. Sorry not trying to single you out, just trying to prove a point.
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Old March 13th, 2011, 12:10 PM
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If you are flipping every disc while throwing you have off axis torque or bad form. I can throw under stable mid range discs like Meteors and such (yes forehand I am talking about) and get good flights out of them and not flip them over. People with sports backgrounds have more POWER right away and can throw it far; more power than form. Just because you can throw it far right away doesn't mean you are using proper technique. Sorry not trying to single you out, just trying to prove a point.
No problem. I don't flip every disc over when throwing max sidearm; I throw very far with my xcal and tee rex and seldom flip them anymore. I have a ton of power and know that's more of my game than others and luckily my form is improving with age as my power wanes.

I was merely suggesting that you may want to disc up a little for SOME people. I moved from leapard to TL to eagle to tbird to wraith and at every juncture the extra distance from my power made we want to learn to control that disc more. I threw sidearm and tomahawk and soon I learned how to backhand all these discs as well. Can most people jump straight to wraith and get it right? Probably not. But many new to our game can handle fairway drivers off the tee and more and probably get more pleasure doing so (and therefore get them to stick around in our sport).

My wife would get discouraged and probably stop disc golfing if I gave her full weight discs or anything overstable. Likewise my friend would have done the same if given the same discs my wife uses. Sometimes it is ok to disc up a newbie. sometimes.
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Old March 13th, 2011, 12:13 PM
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Try a CFR Max for a disc that's difficult to flip. I am a LH player that uses a forehand mostly for recovery shots. My RH side-arm(only gets used when injured) is much more powerful/natural than my left, as I am semi-ambidextrous>> I throw a football and any other heavy stuff left-handed, but skip rocks/throw a baseball with my right arm. Anything below 10 o'clock with my LHFH feels awkward, so I often use an over-stable disc such as the Champ Max/ChampXCal/CE Viper.

While Silly's correct that form>wing down can prevent flip, perhaps you could benefit from throwing something more stable. What is your most stable disc? <<after post I see you throw an Xcal/Trex>> The CFR Max is slower, but more over-stable...

You make a good point that it really depends on the individual...
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Old March 13th, 2011, 12:44 PM
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While Silly's correct that form>wing down can prevent flip, perhaps you could benefit from throwing something more stable. What is your most stable disc? <<after post I see you throw an Xcal/Trex>> The CFR Max is slower, but more over-stable...

You make a good point that it really depends on the individual...
I carried one in my bag for awhile. I didn't get the same distance with it and took it out when I could start backhanding around that distance with decent control. I've also had luck with a brand new DiscMania's PD but keep going back to the trex and xcal when it got broke in a little.

Individuals are different in this just as in any other sport. I'm pretty sure there is a Church of Roc somewhere in disc golf land but I just don't like them. Could be form, could be mental... doesn't matter. They don't work for me.
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Old March 31st, 2011, 01:23 PM
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I started out in the 80's so I had 77 molds and softie 86's. Then a couple years later I got a Discraft Eclipse and used that forever. The eclipse is a great beginner disc, I also second the Leopard, and the idea of getting things that feel good in your hand.
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