walking putt clarification please

[hyzerbomb]

I prefer the prone thrust but it must be repeated so often that the 30 minute rule would surely be called by some lame dude.

[CMC206]

Or 30 Foot..

[CMC206]

It looks good on DVD. I want to go see him at the CSI because I have never spectated a pro tourney. If its outside 30 feet who really cares? Something I would like to try in practice.

[D.L.]

Walter Sobchak: "I'm sorry, Smokey. You were over the line, that's a foul."

This is not 'Nam.

[purediscgolf]

Mark it Zero Dude......

There ARE rules.....

LMAO

[jshrack]

Dude- "...he's got emotional problems, man."

Walter- "You mean... beyond pacifism?"

[Chad_Carter]

Originally Posted by Stephen.Sines

its not about when the foot hits the ground, but whether or not the original putting location is still in contact with the player when the disc is released.
the jump putt is all about the inertia that is built during the early stages of a "jumping" motion and how it applies to said putt. Nothing to do with a literal jump.
the same applies to the walk putt, just as long as no other points of contact are established beyond your placement, and your origin of contact (ie. foot behind marker) still is your "origin". all of these must be true through the release of the disc.
did I miss anything?

we need instant replay....did the ball break the plane??

[Stephen.Sines]

Originally Posted by Chad_Carter

we need instant replay....did the ball break the plane??

good question. just like why are we talking about this. I have lost interest.
Lets go talk somewhere else Sir Chad

[mowens404]

Originally Posted by JMan

it is close, and the subject of long debate, and deadly...

I did this style of putt and still do but only for outside of about 50 feet. A lot of people don't clearly know the rules on this and beleive it is a fault when it isn't. I stopped doing this putt from within 50 because i would get called on it so much. nobody can watch your hand and foot at the same time. I suggest you get it on video and see if it is. If it is that change it up a little bit, if it isn't than you have nothing to worry about.

[Toby Puttzinski]

Originally Posted by mowens404

I suggest you get it on video and see if it is. If it is that change it up a little bit, if it isn't than you have nothing to worry about.

That's a good suggestion. I was thinking about that the other day after asking a few of my buddies if they ever notice me losing my point of contact while jump-putting. I've golfed with both of these guys on hundreds of occasions, and each said they felt my putt was legal. I have never been called on a foot-fault after jump-putting, but have been told that it was 'close' a few times(out of thousands of attempts). It is important to me to play within the rules, so I agree that it'd be a good idea to see it on video to be sure.

[General Scales]

I can't wait till the PDGA does one of two things.

1.) Eliminates the ability to step/jump putt. Really, just develop a strong spin putt for those type of situations.
2.) Eliminates the 10m circle so the argument if you were in or out, can i putt jump, etc will cease to be an issue.

I do putt jump, I do not do it if I have other options. It's a weapon and a curse at the same time.

[DMajor]

Originally Posted by General Scales

2.) Eliminates the 10m circle so the argument if you were in or out, can i putt jump, etc will cease to be an issue.

Would you also eliminate all follow throughs for any shot not off the tee pad?

[Sean Phillips]

Originally Posted by General Scales

1.) Eliminates the ability to step/jump putt. Really, just develop a strong spin putt for those type of situations.

That would mean you couldn't follow through on drives either. Where would you draw the line?

[General Scales]

I would say there would be a huge difference between a putt and a drive. A follow through on a drive is necessary to eliminate injury. A person trying to argue they were following through for a drive from 45 feet would probably lose that argument.

[Sean Phillips]

Originally Posted by General Scales

I would say there would be a huge difference between a putt and a drive. A follow through on a drive is necessary to eliminate injury. A person trying to argue they were following through for a drive from 45 feet would probably lose that argument.

What about 60 ft? Can you see where this is going?

[Yardbird]

How about keeping the current 10 meter rule (possible increase to 15 meters) and change the wording in regards to the release of a disc.

For example, "The disc must be released prior to contacting any playing surface in front the player's lie."

Does it really matter if the disc was released two feet closer to the basket from a lie 45 feet away?

[General Scales]

Originally Posted by Yardbird

How about keeping the current 10 meter rule (possible increase to 15 meters) and change the wording in regards to the release of a disc.

For example, "The disc must be released prior to contacting any playing surface in front the player's lie."

Does it really matter if the disc was released two feet closer to the basket from a lie 45 feet away?

I think that the wording would definitely cause more of an issue. For example, would tall grass be considered a playing surface? Because there are tons of courses that would have that issue. Or doing it out of a bush? Even though you are not moving anything in front of your lie, you are touching things to the sides of your lie.

The only way I see to eliminate it is to eliminate the ability to jump/step putt entirely. Perhaps put posts up at 20 meters and say that's the follow through limit. Anything inside that should be a stand and deliver for either approach or putt.

And yes, two feet on a 45 foot putt can make a huge difference. It can be the difference between an obstacle in your way and a clear shot.

[Yardbird]

Yeah, the wording could be better. I made the post fairly quick. Grass and brush would have to be considered. It would have to be further defined by no supporting contact in front of the lie prior to release or something like that.

In regards to the two feet issue, I disagree that it is hugh advantage. As long as a player doesn't run up, jump, and throw, meaning only starting the throwing motion from the lie. The release timing would be the equalizer in making it fair. Have you ever tried to accurately make a putt in mid air while jumping? It is very hard. Of course, enough practice could improve the technique. Yes, the two feet could have advantage in getting around obstacles by giving a player a chance at making a shot that would otherwise not be there. Players with longer arms and a better skill base also have an advantage.

Also, 20 meters would be too far out to have to show balance after a throw. 15 meters would be more fair if the rules were to be modified to allow jump putting (releasing the disc past your lie with no run-up).

[Bluedisc]

Maybe that's what our sport needs. Just turn putting into a more layup/slam dunk drill. He who can jump the furthest from their lie will dominate....

[DMajor]

Originally Posted by Bluedisc

Maybe that's what our sport needs. Just turn putting into a more layup/slam dunk drill. He who can jump the furthest from their lie will dominate....

As an official representative of the coalition of the tallest one percent of disc golfers, we are unaminously in favor of this proposed rule change.

We feel this rule change will help even out the advantage that our vertically challenged disc brethren have over us on all low ceilinged tees fairways and greens.

Thank you for your sympathy towards our condition and please don't hesitate to ask for help if you happen to find your disc stuck in a tree.