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Old December 21st, 2010, 10:00 AM
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Default PDGA to focus on the grassroots of the sport. yay!
As a 21 year member of the PDGA, I can't tell you how glad I am that the PDGA is planning on putting more focus towards the grassroots of our great sport.
I am all on board, as this has been my main goal for over 20 years.
Please let me know what I can do.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 10:01 AM
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As a 21 year member of the PDGA, I can't tell you how glad I am that the PDGA is planning on putting more focus towards the grassroots of our great sport.
I am all on board, as this has been my main goal for over 20 years.
Please let me know what I can do.
Steven "Yoseman" Wright
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I dont think they're talking about the same "grass" roots, dude.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 10:22 AM
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I dont think they're talking about the same "grass" roots, dude.
Are you just blowing smoke?
Oh well, if the PDGA decides to get off the pot and focus on the other one, I'll be there.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 10:42 AM
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All jokes aside, I agree. I like the fact that they're acknowledging this as important. For a while there it appeared all focus was on "Pros" and growing the "Show". I think both are important to the future of the sport.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 11:45 AM
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It will be interesting how they, the pdga, defines "grass roots" and what they are prepared to do to promote the sport at that defined level. We'll see...
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Old December 21st, 2010, 12:00 PM
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Innova fired the opening shot in this grassroots redirection by going to the handicapped format for USDGC every other year.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 09:19 PM
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Innova fired the opening shot in this grassroots redirection by going to the handicapped format for USDGC every other year.
Don't fool yourself that was profit motivated not grassroots grow the sport motivated.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 10:36 PM
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Don't fool yourself either. It would be hard to find an initiative to address grassroots growth that was not profit oriented because that's where the money is. It certainly isn't at the top.
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 12:30 AM
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When I think of grassroots, I think small weeklies and one day tournaments aimed at beginning players and youth. I don't think of tournaments like USDGC which is clearly aimed at established players.
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 01:03 AM
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When I think of grassroots, I don't think of tournaments at all. They should be putting on clinics for families.

Most ball-golfers and tennis players do not play in tournaments; it's not how most people think about recreational sports.
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 08:23 AM
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Innova fired the opening shot in this grassroots redirection by going to the handicapped format for USDGC every other year.
It's funny really Innova is interested in growing the sport in it's direction first!!!! Remember for the manufactures it's a PROFIT DEAL. The most expensive event of the year is not the venue for first timers.

Want to get more players involved?
lower the membership fees
Dump the non member fee
Quit charging for decals, rule books and such
maybe even opt out of Mag is an option.
Why is it there are tourneys every weekend but only one Worlds Biggest?
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 10:29 AM
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I'm pretty sure that Innova hired the guy who used to come up with the new names for blender speeds to name discs for them. That guy has to cost them a lot.

Whoa, it's lonely at the top...
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 03:40 PM
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I hope the PDGA decides to move in the grassroots direction, I agree with Scott, I also think of weeklies and small events, clinics as well. I was a very casual disc golfer for 2 years until I found the Rockwood Winter series, playing in that well run series was what made me want to pursue disc golf further, not big PDGA events with major sponsors.

I think over the last few years there's been too much of a focus on major corporate sponsors and the National Tour, not on building up organization nationwide to grow the sport.
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 03:53 PM
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Much of the delay in moving toward grassroots programs and perhaps alternative lower cost memberships was caused by lack of resources being applied to developing the technical infrastructure to support it. Technical efforts behind the scenes in the past few years were accelerated when the outside contractor was brought in to help revamp the website and database foundation. Now, the PDGA is in position to start moving in some new directions, especially once the new Tour Manager is onboard in the spring.
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How does the elimination of the Grandmaster division at some NT events fit into the scheme of this?
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Old December 24th, 2010, 08:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure that Innova hired the guy who used to come up with the new names for blender speeds to name discs for them. That guy has to cost them a lot.

Whoa, it's lonely at the top...
I would love to get ahold of a First Run Aerate or CE Frappe
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Old December 24th, 2010, 10:49 PM
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How does the elimination of the Grandmaster division at some NT events fit into the scheme of this?
There never were supposed to be any other divisions besides Open at NTs. Of course, no pro divisions at any age would be considered grassroots divisions anway.
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Old December 24th, 2010, 11:27 PM
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I would love to get ahold of a First Run Aerate or CE Frappe
Henh.

Them guys are earning their keep. I'm willing to bet they won't hold up in R-Pro.
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Old December 25th, 2010, 09:58 AM
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Well I can't help but acknowledge a grass roots connection around pdx, DGOD. Those guys rock! So how will the pdga connect with groups like DGOD who are actively growing the game at the grass roots level? DGOD members really love and support the game, for the sake of the game, not monetary profit. It will be interesting to see how the motivation of money, which the pdga needs to survive, compromises in order to connect with grass roots groups like DGOD who are not profit based.
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Old December 26th, 2010, 10:20 AM
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.... It will be interesting to see how the motivation of money, which the pdga needs to survive, compromises in order to connect with grass roots groups like DGOD who are not profit based.
I seriously doubt the pDGA will compromise on anything regarding revenue. They are just looking for new members to replace the ones who give up on the sport because of their money grubbing attitude

I like the new revenue stream off certified officials.
Why not just go for it and say ALL Tournament Players must (renew yearly) their certified official status.
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