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Old December 8th, 2010, 03:48 PM
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HEY NOW!!!!!
too much???
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Old December 8th, 2010, 03:49 PM
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I like the rule.

I don't mean to always compare disc golf to ball golf, but a "wedgie" in ball golf would be like the ball right on the edge of the hole. It's not in yet, even though some if it is in the hole area. That was a really bad description, but hopefully you get the idea.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 03:53 PM
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Inner wedgies will still count whether witnessed or not. The ruling I'm not sure is "right" is a disc hanging on the nub but outside the basket will not be good even if it was observed to get there from maybe bouncing back from hitting the pole. It brings into question whether the rare putt balancing level on the basket rim is good or not since a disc hanging from the nub but inside the basket will be good.
Interesting. I have one time had my disc hit the chains, flip over, and then land top-down balanced on the top of the tray. As the rules are written now, that would not count since it is not supported by the bottom or inside wall?
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Old December 8th, 2010, 03:59 PM
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I don't know for sure since in theory, the disc is half in and half out and "nubbed in" is IN and "nubbed out" is NOT IN with the new rules. I sent a note to the RC about this.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 12:48 PM
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This is definitely a good rule. Wedgies, while cool to have happen if it's your putter, are just missed putts that got lucky. This is more consistent with what a good putt should be.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 02:46 PM
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I like the rule.

I don't mean to always compare disc golf to ball golf, but a "wedgie" in ball golf would be like the ball right on the edge of the hole. It's not in yet, even though some if it is in the hole area. That was a really bad description, but hopefully you get the idea.
Actually, I think a wedgie in ball golf would be the ball hitting the pole and getting "wedged" between the pole and the opening of the hole.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 04:06 PM
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Actually, I think a wedgie in ball golf would be the ball hitting the pole and getting "wedged" between the pole and the opening of the hole.
I think that's more like a disc getting stuck trying to get in thru the top of the chain support. I'm not sure there's a direct equivalent in golf to a wedgie since there's no "illegal" way to enter the cup. Now, in Minnesota we have gophers. Perhaps a wayward gopher digs another hole on the green and accidentally tunnels the route into the golf cup below grade. The player's upshot lands in the gopher hole and rolls almost into the cup from below. When the player goes to look for his ball, he sees it just barely peeking into the cup from the gopher tunnel.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 04:53 PM
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I think that's more like a disc getting stuck trying to get in thru the top of the chain support. I'm not sure there's a direct equivalent in golf to a wedgie since there's no "illegal" way to enter the cup. Now, in Minnesota we have gophers. Perhaps a wayward gopher digs another hole on the green and accidentally tunnels the route into the golf cup below grade. The player's upshot lands in the gopher hole and rolls almost into the cup from below. When the player goes to look for his ball, he sees it just barely peeking into the cup from the gopher tunnel.
And then... when he reaches for the ball... WHAM. The Vorpal Gopher takes his arm off!
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Old December 9th, 2010, 05:13 PM
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Will there be a doc on the PDGA site outlining the changes in 2011 for those of us that have the previous version of the rulebook?
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And then... when he reaches for the ball... WHAM. The Vorpal Gopher takes his arm off!
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Old December 9th, 2010, 05:38 PM
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Old December 9th, 2010, 05:46 PM
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Will there be a doc on the PDGA site outlining the changes in 2011 for those of us that have the previous version of the rulebook?
As soon as most of the remaining events for this year are done (next week?), they will replace the current rules with the new ones online. Part of that is a "Summary of Changes" section just like the last book.
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Old December 13th, 2010, 05:05 PM
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Sounds to me like the inside wedgie would NOT count unless the disc is touching the bottom of the basket.
These putts balanced on the edge wouldn't count either... (disc isn't supported by chains or bottom of basket.)
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Old December 13th, 2010, 05:25 PM
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Sounds to me like the inside wedgie would NOT count unless the disc is touching the bottom of the basket.
These putts balanced on the edge wouldn't count either... (disc isn't supported by chains or bottom of basket.)
803.13 Holing Out:
B. Disc Entrapment Devices: In order to hole out, the thrower must release the disc and it must come to rest supported by the chains and/or the inner cylinder (bottom and inside wall) of the tray.
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803.13 Holing Out:
B. Disc Entrapment Devices: In order to hole out, the thrower must release the disc and it must come to rest supported by the chains and/or the inner cylinder (bottom and inside wall) of the tray.
Where does the inside wall start and stop? The wall typically consists of bars with a round cross section.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 11:26 PM
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It should just be 'disc must be supported by the chains or basket'
DROT is a DROT... It's not in the chains or basket. Clear enough.
Wedgies should count...so should nubs... "Luck" happens.

"luck" - forum allowed four letter word
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Old December 15th, 2010, 07:55 AM
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It's funny really; a supposed rule clarification actually muddies the water more. D'oh
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Old December 15th, 2010, 07:57 AM
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"luck" - forum allowed four letter word
They allow four letter words all the time like "DISC" and "GOLF"
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Old December 15th, 2010, 11:52 AM
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It should just be 'disc must be supported by the chains or basket'
DROT is a DROT... It's not in the chains or basket. Clear enough.
Wedgies should count...so should nubs... "Luck" happens.

"luck" - forum allowed four letter word
What HE said!

This is a dumb rule!
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Old December 15th, 2010, 01:49 PM
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Yeah, what if the wedgie is going through the back side of the basket and is over half way out, but still hanging? Could happen. My only wedgie birdie was on 18 at Trojan, when I stuck my floppy IV-times, JK Pro Aviar in the front. But what if it had cleared the front rim and stuck, going out the back, but nobody was in position to see it get there?
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