Stumptown Slosh Series #2 - Sunday, December 19th at Dabney State Park

[Matt B.]

Originally Posted by PhilStomp

I keep thinking about this. It bugs me.

Someone is putting up an ace pot to a C tier tournament but I have to be a member of a particular Disc Golf club to win said ace pot.

I have nothing bad to say about this (or any) Disc Golf club nor about anyone who sponsors a Disc Golf tournament. Just the opposite!

BUT if I pay my entry into a tournament (and extra if not PDGA member), why must I also be a member of said Disc Golf club. My Paid entry is not enough?

Yes, Membership is cheap but not the point. And yes, club membership should have advantages but this seems to be … I don’t know … a club tournament not a PDGA tier C tournament put on by a club.

Another thing, script is be supported by the same sponsor as the sponsor of the ace pot, not the Disc Golf club. This appears that the sponsor and club have a “thing” going on. Nothing wrong there but leaves a funny taste in my mouth. Is that what the sponsor and or the club are working toward? I don’t think so but that is my feeling.

Really, I’m not bashing. It’s just that I keep thinking about this and it feels a tiny bit more like half empty than like half full.

That being said, I had a blast at one of last seasons Slosh tournaments and had my one and only ace. I did not know that there was an ace pot but I was contacted later and sent my split. I was really on cloud nine to sneak a Pro Cobra into hole 14 during a tournament but it was really cool that Stump Town Disc Golf made sure that I got my part of the ace pot. Thank you again!

Sincerely,
Phillip Kurtz (PhilStomp)

Eh, you don't want to join a club, don't join a club.
You don't want to buy in to a $10 series acepot, don't buy in to a $10 series acepot.
You don't want to play a tournament, don't play a tournament.

When you put all the work in to run a tournament you can do what you want.

[snap7times]

Originally Posted by PhilStomp

I keep thinking about this. It bugs me.

Someone is putting up an ace pot to a C tier tournament but I have to be a member of a particular Disc Golf club to win said ace pot.

I have nothing bad to say about this (or any) Disc Golf club nor about anyone who sponsors a Disc Golf tournament. Just the opposite!

BUT if I pay my entry into a tournament (and extra if not PDGA member), why must I also be a member of said Disc Golf club. My Paid entry is not enough?

Yes, Membership is cheap but not the point. And yes, club membership should have advantages but this seems to be … I don’t know … a club tournament not a PDGA tier C tournament put on by a club.

Another thing, script is be supported by the same sponsor as the sponsor of the ace pot, not the Disc Golf club. This appears that the sponsor and club have a “thing” going on. Nothing wrong there but leaves a funny taste in my mouth. Is that what the sponsor and or the club are working toward? I don’t think so but that is my feeling.

Really, I’m not bashing. It’s just that I keep thinking about this and it feels a tiny bit more like half empty than like half full.

That being said, I had a blast at one of last seasons Slosh tournaments and had my one and only ace. I did not know that there was an ace pot but I was contacted later and sent my split. I was really on cloud nine to sneak a Pro Cobra into hole 14 during a tournament but it was really cool that Stump Town Disc Golf made sure that I got my part of the ace pot. Thank you again!

Sincerely,
Phillip Kurtz (PhilStomp)

It's called marketing strategy... simple, growth comes from incentives and relationship building. The perks of Stumptown membership are abundant, simply join and the rewards will flood you

[LegoRules]

All signed up

Cindy

[JMan]

Phil, I generally take a Groucho Marks stance to joining clubs, however as a disc enthusiast since 1971 I have always supported local clubs, and am an original Stumptown member. Having said that I must include that I rarely play tournaments of any kind, and won't be playing any of the Slosh series. However, the monetary benefits I received alone in 2010 from NA for being a SDG member paid for the membership price many times over. I support the club and its partnership with NA, it has done nothing but paid benefits to the greater PDX DG community. I can respect your questioning of the connections, but rest assured there is no ulterior motive by either party. However, if you are looking to participate in a tournament that will be conducted at the highest level, a SDG tourney is for you. Go, play, have fun, keep the drama on the stage.
'J'

[DGOD! Disc Golf]

Originally Posted by emmarose

10 bucks... and you get a laminated card you can break into your neighbor's house with

how do i get my card?

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by DGOD! Disc Golf

how do i get my card?

PM Sent

[Flatroc]

Originally Posted by PhilStomp

I keep thinking about this. It bugs me.

Someone is putting up an ace pot to a C tier tournament but I have to be a member of a particular Disc Golf club to win said ace pot.

I have nothing bad to say about this (or any) Disc Golf club nor about anyone who sponsors a Disc Golf tournament. Just the opposite!

BUT if I pay my entry into a tournament (and extra if not PDGA member), why must I also be a member of said Disc Golf club. My Paid entry is not enough?

Yes, Membership is cheap but not the point. And yes, club membership should have advantages but this seems to be … I don’t know … a club tournament not a PDGA tier C tournament put on by a club.

Another thing, script is be supported by the same sponsor as the sponsor of the ace pot, not the Disc Golf club. This appears that the sponsor and club have a “thing” going on. Nothing wrong there but leaves a funny taste in my mouth. Is that what the sponsor and or the club are working toward? I don’t think so but that is my feeling.

Really, I’m not bashing. It’s just that I keep thinking about this and it feels a tiny bit more like half empty than like half full.

That being said, I had a blast at one of last seasons Slosh tournaments and had my one and only ace. I did not know that there was an ace pot but I was contacted later and sent my split. I was really on cloud nine to sneak a Pro Cobra into hole 14 during a tournament but it was really cool that Stump Town Disc Golf made sure that I got my part of the ace pot. Thank you again!

Sincerely,
Phillip Kurtz (PhilStomp)

Hey Phillip,
Perhaps you could get an ace pot side bet going.
Or maybe ask the TD to.
I'd be willing to bet that if you asked folks if they wanted to chip in a buck or two you'd get a few takers.
Or better yet, join up and get some side bets going too.
Heck, I live 200 miles south of Stumptown and I'm probably going to join.
In all of the years I've been around this stuff, the Stumptown DGC has stepped up and been very proactive towards the disc golf movement more than any other club that's been around.
I'd like to help support that, if they'll have me.
FWIW, I still think Sam is a Bagmeister.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Flatroc

Hey Phillip,
Perhaps you could get an ace pot side bet going.
Or maybe ask the TD to.
I'd be willing to bet that if you asked folks if they wanted to chip in a buck or two you'd get a few takers.
Or better yet, join up and get some side bets going too.
Heck, I live 200 miles south of Stumptown and I'm probably going to join.
In all of the years I've been around this stuff, the Stumptown DGC has stepped up and been very proactive towards the disc golf movement more than any other club that's been around.
I'd like to help support that, if they'll have me.
FWIW, I still think Sam is a Bagmeister.

Yose,

In all seriousness. I take this as a huge compliment. It is very nice to be recognized by one of respected veterans. For whatever reason, it has been a difficult task to crack the ice with many long-time players. Thank you.


Jeff

PS: With that said, if you think I am going to let you beat me at Whistlers again you are sorely mistaken.

[Flatroc]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Yose,

In all seriousness. I take this as a huge compliment. It is very nice to be recognized by one of respected veterans. For whatever reason, it has been a difficult task to crack the ice with many long-time players. Thank you.


Jeff

PS: With that said, if you think I am going to let you beat me at Whistlers again you are sorely mistaken.

It's obvious that the SDGC is on a good path for promoting the sport and themselves. It's the professionalism of clubs like this that will show the general public that disc golf is a lot more than just hippies throwing frisbees in the park.
So, I hear you say there's been some ice cracked?
Maybe it just goes to show what testing the frozen waters might do sometimes eh?
's
FWIW, the thought that you were going to let me beat you, never entered my mind.
I just knew who the ones to whoop were.
And you bud, were on the top of the list.
It was an honor to whoop ya because I've seen you play, and you're gudt!

[emmarose]

Originally Posted by LegoRules

All signed up

Cindy

'bout dang time, lady!!!

[PhilStomp]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

I completely understand the point you are making, however I think you've missed a few facts that might sway your opinion a bit.

First off, the club and Next Adventure definitely "have something going on" and we're not only happy about it, but we advertise it. This is no secret. It is, however, a very good thing for both the club AND the players. Win-Win with no losers in the deal.

On the scrip side of things. Stumptown has dealt with a number of different companies when issuing scrip, but more often than not it is for Next Adventure. Why? Because they not only do things like the above ace pot, but they also very often throw in additional swag (water bottles, towels, etc...) for us to include in the players packs. They also give us an excellent deal for our scrip as another means of sweetening up the pot for the amateur players. Every time we run a tournament Next Adventure gives us an extra thirty cents on the dollar to add to that scrip total. So everyone gets a little bit better payout. How is this not awesome?

As for the Ace Pot...

I guess I should preface this with the fact that 9 times out of 10 tournament ace pots are optional. The ace pot fund is usually a separate fee during registration that is in addition to the cost of entering the tourney. There is usually a little check box that says... Do you want to put in an additional $1 for ace pot? I'm not sure exactly how we did it on the last Slosh, but that is usually how we set up the registration. We did not offer that for this years Slosh series because Next Adventure offered us the $250 Ace Pot.

How did this deal come around? At our last club meeting we were discussing the upcoming Slosh series as well as ways to motivate people to renew memberships for the upcoming year. At this point Bryan from Next Adventure said "I'll make a $250 Ace Pot available for anyone who has renewed their membership for 2011". Thats it.

So our motivation was very clear, we wanted to get people to renew and Next Adventure generously offered to throw in something to help motivate them to do so. There was and is no diabolical plan here... just a bunch of people trying to put on cool tournaments... for YOU.

I'd also like to suggest that you drop by one of our club meetings if you have any doubts, questions or concerns about how Stumptown operates. We definitely prefer it when people come out and see what we really are all about so they can form an educated opinion of our club. Plus, we can always use a few more people willing to step up and help out.

I hope this clears things up for you.

It does and I thank you for the information / insight.
I really do hope that I'm not taken the wrong way here. Not trying to stir up drama.
Had some thoughts, sent them out and got some answers...good stuff.

Sincerely,
Phillip Kurtz

[Bullseye]

We still have plenty of room for Slosh #2 at Dabney.

REGISTRATION

Come on out and soak up some fun!

[Flash]

Looks like we are in store for a whomping good time. Remember if you have a propane heater and can bring it let Jeff or I know. I have a spare Propane tank we can use but I will not bring it unless I know we will use it. We are also looking for tarps to use around the pavilion to keep the cold wind and rain out while we do the scoring and such. If you have any tarps we can use bring them PLEASE.

Don't forget to bring a change of sock and clothes in case it rains during the rounds. A hot beverage and food sounds nice as well.

[Bullseye]

I will be accepting entries on the morning of the event, however, you will have to be there before 8:00am.

I will not be accepting entries during the players meeting... <cough>DCDan<cough>

[Sam]

See you Sunday morning, I guess.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Sam

See you Sunday morning, I guess.

Alright.... another Pro Master! Sweet.

[GrummyBear]

Hopefully I'm posting this correctly..

Trying to get some information on the mando on hole 15. Is it only in effect for dabney doubles or is it a course mando?(not posted on the tee sign)

Also I've heard if you miss it, you don't have to take a drop and you play from where your disc lies and add a stroke.

I would love some clarity on the issue.

Thanks all!

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by GrummyBear

Hopefully I'm posting this correctly..

Trying to get some information on the mando on hole 15. Is it only in effect for dabney doubles or is it a course mando?(not posted on the tee sign)

Also I've heard if you miss it, you don't have to take a drop and you play from where your disc lies and add a stroke.

I would love some clarity on the issue.

Thanks all!

For safety reasons we will be making this one a mando.

If you miss the mando you must move to the drop zone (the mando tree), take a penalty and throw from there.

FYI: What you heard regarding mandos is almost never the case.

[SMOKIN JOE]

It seems strange that an event in 2010 would take a 2011 membership. I understand that it is a series and if you played all events it would not really be any different and you would get a membership to boot. If I were a current member that would seem a little unfair if I did not wish to be one for 2011. Nothing against N.A. or S.T. they are doing wonders for our sport.
I have lots of tarpage. I'll bring some.
Haven't played Dabney since the fling. Can't wait.
Looks like a fun older group.
Way to step up Tom.
See-ya all on Sunday.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Alright.... another Pro Master! Sweet.

So you would have thought... but nope.

Same division as last time, please. Dabney chews my shit up.