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Old November 17th, 2010, 04:55 AM
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"' I am quite frankly disappointed in the way that this is playing out. '"



WOW, glad im from podunk Idaho! You all can keep JUB JUB too
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Old November 17th, 2010, 07:01 AM
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"'WOW, glad im from podunk Idaho! You all can keep JUB JUB too
Man Tom I can't get a break anywhere.


What this topic does accomplish is shows a need to (from time to time is) look at the clubs bylaws and procedures just to make sure nothing is left to chance. I agree there needs to be a protocol for all contingencies sometimes they just work out after the problem is identified.

Remember this club is and has always been a labor of love and a work in progress. The good news is the more participants there are the better it will be for all of us.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:16 AM
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Old November 17th, 2010, 12:29 PM
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just from reading this thread doesnt make your organzation look all to appealing to me. to me it seems like the board isnt really adressing the complaints, but are just trying to brush it under the carpet until it goes away. not impressed here.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 12:48 PM
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just from reading this thread doesn't make your organization look all to appealing to me. to me it seems like the board isn't really addressing the complaints, but are just trying to brush it under the carpet until it goes away. not impressed here.
Really!

In the old days clubs did work as you speculated (there are some that still do). I consider this type of healthy PUBLIC discussion refreshing. Clubs that actively use this or other forums should be applauded for "keeping it real"
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Old November 17th, 2010, 09:56 PM
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just from reading this thread doesnt make your organzation look all to appealing to me. to me it seems like the board isnt really adressing the complaints, but are just trying to brush it under the carpet until it goes away. not impressed here.
I am happy to hear that. It's good to know that from sitting back you can easily see who is trying to pull something.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 01:12 AM
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If you want to see how these meetings are playing out there is a Board meeting on Thursday, Today at 3:30 at the season ticket. The Board is meeting, Gordy, Bob, Kevin, and Jon. They have successfully picked a time that Lyle and Jeff can't make to supposedly approve election materials that Bob needs to have paid for. I wish I can go but I have to work like most people at 330. There was a movement to have the meeting in the afternoon on Sunday but I think that would have been to convenient for to many people to show up. More on this to come.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 04:45 AM
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just from reading this thread doesnt make your organzation look all to appealing to me. to me it seems like the board isnt really adressing the complaints, but are just trying to brush it under the carpet until it goes away. not impressed here.
Yeah....well, in comparison, from playing the one and only course your organization maintains, I'm not impressed. So far, the best course in Oly is the worst course in the state. How about you wait 'till after your organization gets a better course than Yauger Swamp in the ground before you throw your two cents over the mountains. K?
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Old November 18th, 2010, 07:00 AM
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If you want to see how these meetings are playing out there is a Board meeting on Thursday, Today at 3:30 at the season ticket. The Board is meeting, Gordy, Bob, Kevin, and Jon. They have successfully picked a time that Lyle and Jeff can't make to supposedly approve election materials that Bob needs to have paid for. I wish I can go but I have to work like most people at 330. There was a movement to have the meeting in the afternoon on Sunday but I think that would have been to convenient for to many people to show up. More on this to come.
Well Gee Yoduh maybe it's time to start your own club? Maybe out in the valley? Maybe Maka can help then you would have TWO idea guys.

but seriously folk's the Board meeting today is for the board members to have a plan ready for the upcoming general club meeting. Personally I think it's a good idea for the board to meet ahead of time, get there ducks in a row and actually look organized for the club. It is unfortunate that not all concerned can attend but lets face it life gets in the way of DG (well at least to the ones who have one). The fact that the meeting was posted online makes the secret meeting comment a moot point
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Burge, The Oly group does a lot of work at a couple of temp (hopefully someday permanent) courses. I have it on good authority that the Shelton course is outstanding!
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Old November 18th, 2010, 08:10 AM
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<moderator hat on>

Folks, I realize there is a lot of controversy over the way things are being done but let's keep it civil or I'm shutting this thread down.

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Old November 18th, 2010, 10:46 AM
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I have no idea how Jub has a word to say on this forum. If you only had 2 cents
Burge I don't feel like Tyvek's point has any reflection on his or our courses. He is simply commenting on how things look on the forum. Your comment doesn't really help that.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 01:06 PM
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If you want to see how these meetings are playing out there is a Board meeting on Thursday, Today at 3:30 at the season ticket. The Board is meeting, Gordy, Bob, Kevin, and Jon. They have successfully picked a time that Lyle and Jeff can't make to supposedly approve election materials that Bob needs to have paid for. I wish I can go but I have to work like most people at 330. There was a movement to have the meeting in the afternoon on Sunday but I think that would have been to convenient for to many people to show up. More on this to come.
Thursday was suggested via e-mail to the board members. Thursday is bad for me due to class + hockey, and I guess today at 3:30 was bad for Jeff too.

Jeff suggested Sunday via e-mail to the board, which seems to work for everyone as long as its late enough.

We will most likely be meeting Sunday at 5:30pm at Season Ticket.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 02:55 PM
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[quote=Yoduh;82873]I have no idea how Jub has a word to say on this forum. If you only had 2 cents

I concur...
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Old November 19th, 2010, 06:46 AM
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I have no idea how Jub has a word to say on this forum. If you only had 2 cents

I concur...
On this particular subject my current club membership gives me the right
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Old November 19th, 2010, 07:24 AM
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Yeah....well, in comparison, from playing the one and only course your organization maintains, I'm not impressed. So far, the best course in Oly is the worst course in the state. How about you wait 'till after your organization gets a better course than Yauger Swamp in the ground before you throw your two cents over the mountains. K?
what are you talking about?????? whos talking about courses here?? well i guess you are, but your the only one. i was commenting on the way that it seems to me your board of directors are working/not working with the rest of the club on some things.

AND SERIOUSLY WHO HAS A CLUB MEETING OR BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING AT 3:30 IN THE AFTERNOON????!! why not have it at a time where people are not at work?
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Old November 19th, 2010, 07:48 AM
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AND SERIOUSLY WHO HAS A CLUB MEETING OR BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING AT 3:30 IN THE AFTERNOON????!!
like I said this is an organizational meeting.

to answer your question someone who has to be back to work at 5 PM is who would propose such a time
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Old November 19th, 2010, 06:31 PM
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Jeff was defiantly given the opportunity to vote, and he did. He gave his opinion, and was heard. As will happen from time to time not everyone will agree as to the best course of action. Thats why we have the system of a vote.
Jon,
I guess we perceived the interaction differently.
I saw no votes for the first person nominated.
I saw 3 votes for you.
I saw Jeff try to continue the discussion without a voting opportunity and he got shut down.

Is this process legitimate... our charter is so ambiguous it doesn't matter.

I do appreciate that you addressed the issue in a positive way, though.
I really hoped this would start some conversation about updating the charter... maybe my methods were too passive agressive.
If I offended you, apologies.
I really just think we need some hindsight to see how we can improve as a club.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 02:34 AM
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The one thing this ugly mess has illustrated is how un-detailed our charter is in it's current language. There are issues that need addressed. Hopefully they will come to light at our next meeting.

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Jon,
I guess we perceived the interaction differently.
I saw no votes for the first person nominated.
I saw 3 votes for you.
I saw Jeff try to continue the discussion without a voting opportunity and he got shut down.

Is this process legitimate... our charter is so ambiguous it doesn't matter.

I do appreciate that you addressed the issue in a positive way, though.
I really hoped this would start some conversation about updating the charter... maybe my methods were too passive agressive.
If I offended you, apologies. If I could only get Bob to quit hitting on my..
I really just think we need some hindsight to see how we can improve as a club.
I am happy to hear the meeting time has been altered.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 03:57 AM
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The one thing this ugly mess has illustrated is how un-detailed our charter is in it's current language. There are issues that need addressed. Hopefully they will come to light at our next meeting.
Everyone seems to agree on that.

It has been brought up multiple times by Tim N, but I don't think anyone in the club has the knowledge or the will to create a serious charter.
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