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Originally Posted by cefire
So playing a "jub-approved" safari course is ok (despite the disaster that crossing fairways would create in a tourney), but changing up tees a little bit is out of the question.
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You know when I first started Excaliber(not my first choice) I asked If anyone wanted to walk the land beforehand. It seems to me that if Tom had been involved with those and subsequent visits his ideas might have been considered. Just like BA's, Don, Captain's, Jim O, Jim A, Erik Illg and Yes, yours (Andrew) were.
Most of Tom's suggestions were considered at the time but failed to pass at least one of the tests Most notably the P/R final walk through.
I never though Silver Lake should be a Full field (all divisions) tournament venue in the first place. It will be a great place for Jr's though!
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Originally Posted by cefire
This constant shutting down of anyone who is trying to do something positive is getting old, really old 
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You now Andrew When I first started here I was known as "jubby come lately" just like you. But I have stuck with it, paid dearly for it and hoped to save the new crop of supporters (notice how I did not say players) some of the aggravation.
Before I started
Financial Transparency was non existent,
Flyer disclosure improved after I started writing my copy
I was the only one to TRY a Pro II event in the NW, Split weekend to boot Sat Am, Sun Open
Am Trophy only Player Packs,
Real Trophies not some half assed photo shop effort.
Proposed/executed The Survey with no prior experience or knowledge of the process
Proposed the Evaluation of events (still pitching it cause I believe we really need it)
Instant Win Basket Toss was an idea Jim O and I thought of
I have spoken to several people (again, you Andrew) about developing a possible "outside the box" revenue stream for all clubs
Some really good ideas (No! they are not all mine) are trying to once again make there way throught the 2011 WSS group. So we will see.
If you ask me, There are two kinds of people
People who say they will help and don't (blowhards)
and people who say they will help and actually DO HELP!
Now, I know both you and Tom are actually helping, I am just hoping you can learn from the choices and/or mistakes I've made because in the end are'nt we all just trying to make it just a little better
jub the hater, naysayer,obstructionist HELPING ass hole