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Old July 13th, 2010, 03:21 PM
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Default Wind issues

what would be some good discs for windy situations?
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Old July 13th, 2010, 03:31 PM
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Overstable, heavier discs for headwinds, understable, lighter ones for tailwinds.
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Old July 13th, 2010, 03:43 PM
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You probably want heavyish ones for crosswinds too.
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Old July 13th, 2010, 04:08 PM
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Driving: Starfire, Firebird, XXX, Flick,

Putting: Rhyno, Drone, Challanger,

Etc, etc

Here's a link to the universal flight chart. You probably don't want to throw anything with a negative HSS
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Old July 13th, 2010, 04:11 PM
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A crosswind that opposes the spin direction of the leading edge will be a flippier crosswind than the one that doesn't. In other words, the one that hits from the right side for the RHBH, or the LHFH, will try to tip you right and act more like a headwind, where the one from the left side will act more like a tailwind. At least that's the way it seems to me.
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Old July 13th, 2010, 05:29 PM
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A crosswind that opposes the spin direction of the leading edge will be a flippier crosswind than the one that doesn't. In other words, the one that hits from the right side for the RHBH, or the LHFH, will try to tip you right and act more like a headwind, where the one from the left side will act more like a tailwind. At least that's the way it seems to me.
In my experience the way a crosswind effects your disc flight depends alot on the angle your disc is flying at. Throw a disc with hyzer (rhbh) in a right to left crosswind and the wind will exagerate that hyzer and make it harder for it to flip flat making the disc seem more overstable. Throw the same disc with anhyzer into the same wind and the anhyzer line will hold longer making the disc seem more understable. I think crosswinds are trickier to figure out and navigate succesfully because the potential surface area of your disc (hyzer/anhyzer) is much greater than it is into a headwind (nose up/nose down).
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Old July 13th, 2010, 08:08 PM
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I love the star destroyer with a headwind thrown rhbh. Champ sidewinder/roadrunner tailwind. Millineum polaris ls/orion ls sidewind thrown rhbh.
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Old July 13th, 2010, 09:21 PM
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I was speaking of discs thrown flat. Let a crosswind get underneath, or on top of, your disc and all bets are off. They either get blown into the ground or into the next county.
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Old July 13th, 2010, 10:30 PM
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Crosswinds are the trickiest. DMajor pretty much summed it up, but when you have a combination cross/tailwind or cross/headwind then things get real tricky.

In general, overstable discs want to drop and will be the least affected by the wind, but they can still be pushed around quite a bit if you expose the flight plate to the wind.
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Old July 14th, 2010, 01:00 PM
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I was speaking of discs thrown flat.
Consistently flat shots are pretty rare for me.
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Old July 14th, 2010, 01:40 PM
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I was speaking of discs thrown flat. Let a crosswind get underneath, or on top of, your disc and all bets are off. They either get blown into the ground or into the next county.
Flat and low is the best advice for windy throwing conditions.

If I'm feeling feisty I try to keep the wind on top of my disc. If the wind gets underneath the disc, its very difficult to predict.

If I have a left to right wind, I'll throw something on a slight hyzer angle and give it some extra height because I know the wind will push it down.

Right to left wind, throw a slight anhyzer (usually a roc or beat eagle) and give it height.
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Old July 14th, 2010, 03:03 PM
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I love the star destroyer with a headwind thrown rhbh
Are you suggesting that the Star Destroyer is not a good headwind disc for lefties throwing backhand? Why, direction of the earth's rotation or something?
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Old July 14th, 2010, 06:05 PM
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There's always the Southern Hemisphere for the lefties.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 04:56 AM
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Are you suggesting that the Star Destroyer is not a good headwind disc for lefties throwing backhand? Why, direction of the earth's rotation or something?
Yup its all about the rotation....and the moon

Actualy I play with some golfers who throw left backhand. I don't think the wind cares what direction the spin is!!
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Old July 15th, 2010, 09:21 AM
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I don't think the wind cares what direction the spin is!!
The crosswind certainly does. It will separate the righties from the lefties.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 09:48 PM
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Wanna learn how to throw with variable wind conditions?

Come to Crystal. You'll likely find a little bit of everything, all in one round. At least today we did. Never really stopped the entire day.

I find a Gator helpful but they don't go very far.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 10:26 PM
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Dee, I can't wait to make it up to Crystal for some mountain golf! Any chance of the lift running on a weekday? Not sure I'm ready for the hike to the top like my friends did last week...

I really like the Gator as well, but when you want it to go a bit further, throw a Whippet; and when you want your Whippet to go further, throw a CFR Max. All 3 great headwinds discs.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 10:53 PM
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Can't go wrong with a good firebird or excalibur.
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Old July 21st, 2010, 09:04 PM
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Are you suggesting that the Star Destroyer is not a good headwind disc for lefties throwing backhand? Why, direction of the earth's rotation or something ?
Exactly !

If you do the calculations using advanced quantum physics it works out that the Wraith is the better disc for left handed backhand throwers, like myself, into a headwind.

Destroyer does make a perfectly good lefthand forehand disc though, the space time vortex permits that.

I do prefer a heavy Xcal for forehand upwind drives.
I know its not going far, but at least its gonna go in the right direction.

For crosswinds, I still feel that if you have a choice, throw a shot where the wind is pushing the disc from behind as its fading for maximum distance.

In other words, for a righthand backhand thrower, a right to left wind will be more helpful than a left to right wind is, a LH player would throw a forehand shot here, so the disc finishes going right.
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 09:16 AM
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I'm sure you meant to note that this was, of course, for the Northern Hemisphere.
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