Next Adventure Amateur Championship - August 28-29 - Page 2 - Oregon Events

citizens arrest · #21 July 13th, 2010, 09:30 PM

Go buy 3 discs a bag a dry fit shirt for less than entry fee and let me know where you get them and I,ll go shopping

NWDiscer · #22 July 13th, 2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by citizens arrest

Go buy 3 discs a bag a dry fit shirt for less than entry fee and let me know where you get them and I,ll go shopping

u got to have enough shirts and discs to last ya by now........

LJ Jubner · #23 July 15th, 2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by smobro

Take about 25 of your good discs that you got from various tourneys over the years and sell them to NA. Then turn around and give it back to them in the form of registration. IN other words, this tourney is allowing you to actually give away plastic you don't want and use it to pay for the tourney to get more plastic you dont want, but a rad shirt and field bag you do want. AWESOME!
So, basically the tourney is free and you will have a blast and get a mad cool players pack with it.

Thanks NA for putting this on. Can't wait.

So when Next Adventure (really describes their business model, just needs Your at the beginning).

Do they take new as well as used?
If New then at what price do they pay you? Wholesale? Retail? (Retail, yeah right!)

This leads me to two important questions

How does it make you fell when
Winnings were valued at one price but returnable for a lesser value?

Then how would you feel
If you saw that same disc back on the shelves marked up to retail again?

Side question
Does this practice not contradict the concept of "Amateur" status?

Basically, All you are doing is giving the mark up to two different entities and you walk with cash. Exactly like the AM TD (who places) really CASHES IN by excepting his own scrip.

Jeff Hemmerling · #24 July 15th, 2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LJ Jubner

How does it make you fell when
Winnings were valued at one price but returnable for a lesser value?

Then how would you feel
If you saw that same disc back on the shelves marked up to retail again?

Side question
Does this practice not contradict the concept of "Amateur" status?

Basically, All you are doing is giving the mark up to two different entities and you walk with cash. Exactly like the AM TD (who places) really CASHES IN by excepting his own scrip.

Jub,
I thought you were on the new meds since you haven't brought this up in so long. Please give it a rest. We've been over this issue (ad nauseum) at least three times in the last nine years. The horse is already dead, in fact it's been cremated and the ashes thrown to the wind. I can't take it again captain!

Bullseye · #25 July 15th, 2010, 02:34 PM

Jub,

Have you EVER been to Next Adventure? My guess is no.

I'm thinking it would be a good idea if you did a little research before you go shooting your mouth off on a public forum. Next Adventure has been one of the best tournament supporters Portland disc golf has had over past few years. They have been exceptionally generous with us, and they deserve all of the success they have had as result of that support.

Here are just a few of the things Next Adventure does for the disc golf community down here:

1) Next Adventure allows Stumptown Disc Golf to use their store after hours for our club meetings because it is very centralized and convenient for our members. They do this free of charge, and on their own time... and they even buy the pizza and beverages.

2) Next Adventure gives all Stumptown club members a discount in the store, and not just on the disc golf stuff.

3) Next Adventure gives our TDs a scrip bump so our event payouts will be even better than normal at all of our local events.

4) Next Adventure helped us get excellent pricing on 21 custom powdercoated baskets for the Stub Stewart course that will be opening up shortly.

5) Next Adventure is teaming up with Stumptown to provide professional, accurate signage for Pier Park.

6) They allow customers in their store to join the Stumptown club and have helped us increase membership each and every year.

and on an on...

So, back to your uninformed rant...

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Originally Posted by LJ Jubner

Do they take new as well as used?
If New then at what price do they pay you? Wholesale? Retail? (Retail, yeah right!)

So what if they buy used discs that players no longer want and then resell them to players who want that disc. Where is the harm in that? Of course they mark those discs up a bit. They are a business, not a charity. Why you would have a problem with that is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by LJ Jubner

How does it make you feel when winnings were valued at one price but returnable for a lesser value?

I never felt this way... because they bump UP our scrip value to more than it WAS worth.

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Originally Posted by LJ Jubner

Then how would you feel if you saw that same disc back on the shelves marked up to retail again?

You wont see a used disc selling for retail. Duh. If, however, I did see a used disc in the used disc box for more than I sold it to them for I would say "Good for them.".

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Originally Posted by LJ Jubner

Does this practice not contradict the concept of "Amateur" status?

I could answer this if any of the points you previously brought up were even slightly valid, so I guess my answer to this is: "WTF?"

Nice try Jub, but it was a swing and a miss. All you've managed to accomplish is insulting one of our biggest supporters down here. Way to go, Jub! </sarcasm>

LegoRules · #26 July 15th, 2010, 05:12 PM

Yes I agree with everything Jeff stated about Next Adventure they are so super supportive of the disc golfers in our area. Here are a few more things they are doing as well. For one the are the title sponsor for the Chick Flick. We could not put on the best disc golf event for women in the nation without Bryan and Next Adventure.

Along with the schwag for the players pack, raffle, ctps, ring or fire that is provided by Bryan and Next Adventure remember when you go to get your lunch and icy cold beer that is provided in your players pack at the Chick Flick not only is it provided by Next Adventure it is cooked and prepared personally by Bryan and the Next Adventure crew. They also cooked lunch Saturday and Sunday at this years BSF.

Also they are sponsoring 3 disc golfers in the community 3 armatures, and one pro. Not too many armatures have the opportunity to have such a generous sponsor, and I and the rest of the Flight Crew are so grateful.

Anyway stop being so grumpy and don't sign up if it is not your cup of tea. I for one can't wait for this event it is going to be just one big disc golf party.

THANKS BRYAN & NEXT ADVENTURE!!!!!

LJ Jubner · #27 July 15th, 2010, 07:42 PM

My comments were not necessarily aimed at N/A but the players who buy into the rational that "it was not my money to start with so I don't care who (how much or often) profits off it.

It sounds like N/A is doing some good things but as business it does not pay to sponsor Pros. Sure the ads good but it does not directly translate into sales.

Of course any business would let you take a discount off anything in the store and then increased foot traffic by

giving the discount to clubbers (a captive audience)
taking club memberships reinforcing the above statement
and the euphonium of bumping up just reiterates the point

is also a no brain er

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Originally Posted by LJ Jubner

Do they take new as well as used?
If New then at what price do they pay you? Wholesale? Retail? (Retail, yeah right!)

here is the disconnect

Used plastic has markings on them and it's pretty obvious that they are used.

New plastic implies that it's straight from the factory and that it was not previously picked or stacked as payout.

Side question
Does this practice not contradict the concept of "Amateur" status?

Basically, All you are doing is giving the mark up to two different entities and you walk with cash. Exactly like the AM TD (who places) really CASHES IN by excepting his own scrip.

So bottom line is winners don't care if they are getting the shaft as long as it's the losers money.

smobro · #28 July 15th, 2010, 07:46 PM

Please disregard any and all comments now and in the future from Jub on this forum thread. His comments on this thread have no merit and are not in any way reflective of the opinion of the disc golf community that you support so heavily. He is not engaged in anything that you participate in or support. We are so thankful to have you involved in DG in Portland. I am thrilled if you profit financially by participating. After all, you don't have .org in your web address and shouldn't. Thanks for all you do. again, I hate to have to apologize for Jub, but he clearly needs someone to.

Thanks,

Smo

Sam · #29 July 15th, 2010, 07:52 PM

Is there a player's list online somewhere? How many rounds will be played? I know I can find this information somewhere. Just trying to guide the conversation back towards the actual subject of the thread.

TreeLove · #30 July 15th, 2010, 08:33 PM

Bagger.

TreeLove · #31 July 15th, 2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LJ Jubner

So when Next Adventure (really describes their business model, just needs Your at the beginning).

Do they take new as well as used?
If New then at what price do they pay you? Wholesale? Retail? (Retail, yeah right!)

This leads me to two important questions

How does it make you fell when
Winnings were valued at one price but returnable for a lesser value?

Then how would you feel
If you saw that same disc back on the shelves marked up to retail again?

Side question
Does this practice not contradict the concept of "Amateur" status?

Basically, All you are doing is giving the mark up to two different entities and you walk with cash. Exactly like the AM TD (who places) really CASHES IN by excepting his own scrip.

Jub, don't you ever get tired of unfounded bashing? Why don't you run your own AM tournament, and win, and pocket your own scrip in cash? When you popped off in that other thread, you were so nonsensical, that no none even bothered to respond. You know I love you, but lay off the Psycho Kool Aid, will ya?

One of the few upsides of a free market capitalist economy is that consumers can vote with their dollars. If you think the NA Am Championship is such a ripoff, then don't register.

Wow, do I feel my first banning coming on? I love to drink and post!

Seriously, Jub, your targets are WAY off the mark! Dude, the (ex-)OR series events, Stumptown events, Whistler's Bend events, Milo events, all ROCK! No one is getting ripped off, it is easy to see. Why don't you pick on some truly BAD tournaments, like the ones where the money OBVIOUSLY does not add up, like those rigged turkey raffles, pathetic northern PDGA events with no leaderboard, no tee signs, and no maps, herbal tournaments where players are promised player packs and then given NOTHING, etc. COME ON, GET REAL! I am starting to think that whatever you say, the opposite is true!

Take it from me, I have been to hundreds of tournaments (no shit), and I can tell a ripoff from a good deal a mile away. Perhaps you can not.

D-Walk · #32 July 15th, 2010, 09:17 PM

If Treelove gets banned...does the calendar get banned too?

Carie CPink · #33 July 15th, 2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeLove

Dude, the (ex-)OR series events, Stumptown events, Whistler's Bend events, Milo events, all ROCK! No one is getting ripped off, a 5th grader could figure that out. Why don't you pick on some SHITTY tournaments, like the ones where the money OBVIOUSLY does not add up, like those rigged turkey raffles, pathetic northern PDGA events with no leaderboard, no tee signs, and no maps, herbal tournaments where players are promised player packs and then given NOTHING, etc.

Maybe this is reason we have waiting lists for Oregon tournaments while others are pining (ei: beggin/whining) for more pros to sign up.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

Wes Hansen · #34 July 15th, 2010, 11:45 PM

Is the flyer up?
Not PDGA?
When I starting seeing all Next Adventure was doing for disc golf in the PNW, particularly their involvement in great tournaments and Stumptown I started buying my plastic and gear there. They are both smart and generous and that wins my support.
I also love how conveniently located they are, their predictable hours and friendly staff.
On the other hand, I also love where Jub is located, as well as his predictability.
PLEASE don't ban Treelove or the calendar. This is all undoubtedly my fault.

sillybizz · #35 July 17th, 2010, 10:52 PM

TreeLove said nothing that I could see that would even get him a warning, let alone a banning.

The only tournament I ever did with NA involved (because I live 4 hours North) was at Mt. Adams for the WBDGW this year and they seemed to be on the ball and had tons of CTP's as well as an awesome ring of fire with excellent prizes and a very well run tournament. They don't strike me as being shady or trying to rip people off; it seems like just the opposite and any person or business doing great things for disc golf anywhere needs to be praised. Good luck with the tournament everyone, have fun.

LakeStevensBA · #36 July 18th, 2010, 04:33 PM

I think NA is awesome for what they do for disc golf! Way to go!

I think treelove should be banned because he was drinking and typing. I would never do that.....doh! too late.

I think Jub should explain what this means..."and the euphonium of bumping up just reiterates the point"
A euphonium is a brass musical instrument similar to a small tuba. Are people playing tubas in the Oregon Tourneys? Wouldn't the noise be a courtesy violation?

Sausage Fingers · #37 July 18th, 2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Walk

If Treelove gets banned...does the calendar get banned too?

Everybody must get banned!

Sam · #38 July 18th, 2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeStevensBA

I think Jub should explain what this means..."and the euphonium of bumping up just reiterates the point"
A euphonium is a brass musical instrument similar to a small tuba. Are people playing tubas in the Oregon Tourneys? Wouldn't the noise be a courtesy violation?

If there was an Olympic event of funny shit, this would win the prettiest colored medal. Purple, I think.

I am so getting a euphonium for bumping up and restating my points. Especially during tournament play. When you say small tuba, though... will I need another caddy for that or will the one I currently employ be able to attach it to my bag, somehow?

Magilla · #39 July 19th, 2010, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeLove

Bagger.

YEAH! What he said.....

Oh and by the way...

DODGERS SUCK, DODGERS SUCK, DODGERS SUCK

Sausage Fingers · #40 July 19th, 2010, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I am so getting a euphonium for bumping up and restating my points. Especially during tournament play. When you say small tuba, though... will I need another caddy for that or will the one I currently employ be able to attach it to my bag, somehow?

Well when I started playing that instrument in 5th grade the case was bigger then I was...so I just put it on top of my skateboard and rode the thing to school and back...