New star plastic??

[Mikk]

Originally Posted by emmarose

... well said... i very much agree with this sentiment... i definitely have preferences for a particular disc and can be heart broken when i have to replace a dear friend that's been in my bag for a while, but have mostly noticed that it simply takes a while for the disc to get worked in to just where i want it...

... one thing no one else has mentioned (y'all's so caught up in fancy schmancy polymers and such) is the color of the plastic... i find that to be the most noticeable variable for me... my lighter colored (pink, yellow, white, baby blue) 150 star valks fly just right for me... but a dark blue or red one... no thank you! is this real or just psychosomatic 'cause i don't like the color red and think dark blue is hard to find?

peace,
em

Funny you mention the color of the plastic. I know a few golfers that think along the same way. Me personaly I like the off red/orange the best. It "seems to me" to be the most gripy like my marbled star max kinda reddish/orangeish. Oddly enough my best distance drive is with a white star destroyer. My longest and coolest ace is with a white Polaris LS. My first ace is with a white dx washington series roc. My best midrange is a white star mako. odd eh?

[General Scales]

Ahh, color choice effecting the stability of a disc. I've heard of such a thing. I think it was Parks that was saying something last year bout somebody who only bombed the baby blue Gateway Illusions because they were a tad bit more stable then the rest of them.

I know that many people are anal about the color of the disc but I've always just assumed it's because OCD sucks and they have to have it that way.

I've never actually noticed a difference between any color of a mold and a difference in flight between the different color variations.

That makes for an interesting experiment and one that I will start working on as soon as I get home. I just buy my discs in the same weights and hopefully the same run of the mold so I know for a fact that they are what I fell in love with.

As for the losing a disc and having a new one be the same right away, that'd be great (and a pipe dream). I fall in love with a disc when they are new. That way I know what to expect when I go to grab the new replacement. Did lose my 1st run Force a couple weeks back and I miss it. Even wrote an ode to it.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by XandorF

wow, do i really have to spell it out for you. "...doesn't mean i dont have social skills."

im not neglecting my social skills, im using them to push your buttons. which would imply that i do, infact, have social skills.

you stupid boner.

As you both childishly stumble toward the threshold, I'd like to point out we don't look kindly on personal attacks here. Consider this your warning warning.

[sillybizz]

You really are the Moderhater! Sorry, sorry don't banish me oh great one!

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by sillybizz

You really are the Moderhater! Sorry, sorry don't banish me oh great one!

Yes, but I did think a pre-warning warning was kind of... tolerant of me... doncha think.

[Matt B.]

Originally Posted by bullseye

as you both childishly stumble toward the threshold, i'd like to point out we don't look kindly on personal attacks here. Consider this your warning warning.

boner boner boner boner boner boner

NOW who looks childish?

[sillybizz]

I don't know I just couldn't get offended by someone calling me a boner; it just makes me laugh.

[ChUcK]

Originally Posted by XandorF

you stupid boner.

Hey, if it wasn't for boners, none of us would be here today.

[General Scales]

Originally Posted by ChUcK

Hey, if it wasn't for boners, none of us would be here today.

And people having unprotected relations. I thank my parents for that every single anniversary .

[sillybizz]

Originally Posted by General Scales

And people having unprotected relations

Relations?! Do you live in amish country or something?

[Yoduh]

Colors do effect the stability of the disc because of the rate of cooling and how much dome or flatness occurs because of such.. The farther you throw the more apparent this becomes.. thread drift is so entertaining.}

[cefire]

Stepping in with a third on the color indicating differences in the flight of discs (both innova and at least old discraft X plastic). I'm not sure anyone can say with certainty that it is in fact the color that causes the difference or that the manufacturers tend to run batches of the same color/stamp at the same time and are affected by the same conditions during molding.

If the color/rate of cooling was the reason, wouldn't you expect close (but not identical) colors to fly near the same? - I don't find this to always be the case IME

[ChUcK]

I'm normally a dedicated skeptic of bogeymen, but I think that the color-flight relationship may have merit, and for precisely the reason Yoduh pointed out, and possibly more. Differently-colored pellets that are used to add hues to the plastic are not made from the same chemicals and will behave differently in the blend. I think the most likely result of this is varying cooling rates, but I wouldn't be surprised if some led to a more porous/denser product, a softer/stiffer product, etc.

I did some studying of the molecular makeup of different dyes, and you wouldn't believe the variances in structure, functional groups, and reactivities. I am sure that the chemicals used to dye plastic during injection are similar in their differences, leading to unpredictable results.

edit: One of these days the manufacturers will be able to afford to build a damn climate controlled 'clean room' for manufacturing, in order to minimize as many environmental variables as possible. Right after Dunipace finishes paying off his yacht, I suppose.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Honestly.......who can really throw the same disc exactly the same exact way every time?

You are a liar if you answered yes. It does not matter if your disc is discraft or innova or any other kind...........every disc will eventually conform to the thrower.

Does my new jk pro aviar-x putter fly like my old one.....no. Even though my new is a proto bar stamp jk aviar and my old is a 3x jk aviar i will have my new putter flying just like my old one did in time. Its called breaking your discs in.........very rare to have a disc fly exactly the way you want right off the shelve.

Just my two cents........please dont bash me.........i play masters now!

[Darr]

Originally Posted by SPIDER-DAN

Honestly.......who can really throw the same disc exactly the same exact way every time?

You are a liar if you answered yes. It does not matter if your disc is discraft or innova or any other kind...........every disc will eventually conform to the thrower.

Does my new jk pro aviar-x putter fly like my old one.....no. Even though my new is a proto bar stamp jk aviar and my old is a 3x jk aviar i will have my new putter flying just like my old one did in time. Its called breaking your discs in.........very rare to have a disc fly exactly the way you want right off the shelve.

Just my two cents........please dont bash me.........i play masters now!

Very wise
It will no doubt confuse the boners

Originally Posted by sillybizz

You really are the Moderhater! Sorry, sorry don't banish me oh great one!

Jeez things are lax in the disc golf world. In other bigger forums I use any kind of disrespect to the moderators is not only intolerable but rarely even seen in public because it is deleted before it gets seen.

It seems totalitarian but when these places get lively enough it becomes clear there needs to be some kind of rule. A tactful but untouchable moderator goes along way in that direction.

[sillybizz]

Not to sway this thread to a different direction or anything but I think we have a good moderator team that is more than fair and direct.

[Ol' Bob]

The drive to push buttons and be the resident dick is some aspiration. Will the real boners please stand up?

Interesting that today's chemical industry, as recently as the first half of the last century, was called, the "dyestuffs industry."

[Ol' Bob]

Originally Posted by Bryon_Harris

Jeez things are lax in the disc golf world.

And bless us all for that.

[Mikk]

I didn't think about the color dye in effect to the plastic..I was showing my new star boss to Bjorn and Tuffi last night(Ming too) They seem fasinated as to how soft the disc is. So far it seems to me to be more over stable than my other bosses. I'm gona goto white river after work and try some comparison flights!! Yup any reason to throw!!
On a side note I have a disc dyed with the "boner" logo. HA!!