Festivus 8 - 1/24/09

[Dave Pittman]

The WDGC is again hosting our annual winter tournament at Adair County Park. Saturday January 24th is the day, the flyer can be found and printed on the calendar. The field is limited to 88 players on a 22 hole layout. Pre registration only. Titledisc is supposed to activate online registration today, but is not active yet. You can always snail mail your entry to Greg. If you are on the fence waiting to see what the weather will be like that Saturday you will have waited too long to get a spot in the tournament.
Rumor has it that KC has drawn some wind into this year's tournament stamp. He's the club artist and Festivus weather wizard for those not in the know.

[Sam]

Some wind... and he told me that I had to get a disc if I didn't attend... AWESOME! I can't wait to see it. I am thinking 9...

[TreeLove]

www.titledisc.com ?

[Wog]

Titledisc.com is seriously broke!

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/titledisc.com

[Adam Schneider]

Originally Posted by Wog

Titledisc.com is seriously broke!

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/titledisc.com

Not anymore.

"It's just you. titledisc.com is up."

[TreeLove]

That link cracked me up! FYI: I checked from multiple machines - they were down earlier today.

[Matt B.]

Titledisc is up but they sure aren't in a ny rush to make the registration live. I'm sending in mine by snail mail - screw you titledisc, you can kiss my buck fifty goodbye! Sha-sha!!

[smobro]

Any chance someone could post the current # of registered DG'ers in each division? I am looking forward to 44 sick holes of golf.

Thanks

[smobro]

Originally Posted by smobro

Any chance someone could post the current # of registered DG'ers in each division? I am looking forward to 44 sick holes of golf.

Thanks

????? Anyone? Buehler?

[LegoRules]

Originally Posted by smobro

Any chance someone could post the current # of registered DG'ers in each division? I am looking forward to 44 sick holes of golf.

Thanks

Yes I would like to see a registration list as well. I have not received any kind of confirmation, and it would be nice to know if I made it in. Apparently it was pretty full when I went to register on the web site.

Cindy

[Dave Pittman]

Online registration is closed. There are a few spaces left for arranged payments and mail in registrations over the next day or two. Registration list is current through 1/6.

Toni Hoyman FPO
Zoe AnDyke FW1
Sarah Johnson FW1
Celeste Scandiffio FW1
Laura Bryngelson FW2
Amber Cochran FW2
Cindy McMahan FW2
Kim Smothers FW2
Tami Allen FW3
Karen Oconnor FW3
Marcus Crespi MA1
Chris Cusack MA1
Marcus Durbin MA1
Crist Garcia MA1
Justin Hiatt MA1
Josh Johnson MA1
Mike Key MA1
John Kinder MA1
Casey Lohrman MA1
Mark Martin MA1
Ron Owings MA1
Tewa Phimasome MA1
Phil Quinn MA1
Mathew Sommer MA1
Chris Wilcox MA1
Craig Banner MA2
Nick Bonzey MA2
Chris Dimbat MA2
Scott Duvaul MA2
Sam Gibson MA2
Mike Gibson MA2
Hyatt Green MA2
Jerah Gumm MA2
James Hooper MA2
Robert Jones MA2
Chris Quinn MA2
Richard Raymond MA2
Ricky Scott MA2
Dave Stewart MA2
Kevin Watson MA2
Jason West MA2
Ted Harbaugh MA3
Michael Krasilovsky MA3
Tyler Pickett MA3
Josh Powell MA3
Kent Smothers MA3
Jim Dubay MG1
Gene Fackler MG1
Bob Fultz MG1
Ralph Huntoon MG1
David Pittman MG1
Kevin Allen MM1
Greg Alpert MM1
Don Baughman MM1
Sean Benson MM1
Jesse Grasseth MM1
Dan Hammett MM1
Wayne Harvey MM1
Greg Johnson MM1
Rick Reichard MM1
Eric Smith MM1
Gawain Stern MM1
Dennis Swanson MM1
Jay Sexton MPM
Rory Wade MPM
Matt Benotsch MPO
Kelly Christiansen MPO
Logan Grasseth MPO
Brandon Hill MPO
Ryan Lane MPO
Kirk McAllister MPO
Brad McDougall MPO
John Ollis MPO
Jesse Seibel MPO
Nate Sexton MPO
Justin Skinnell MPO
Mike Storrs MPO
Ben Van Dusen MPO
Bart Yanoch MPO

[Dave Pittman]

TD contact information

Greg Johnson
21044 Blodgett Road
Blodgett, OR 97326

541-760-2372

[discgolfgreg]

Thanks David,

Sorry folks I have been too busy and don't regularly check forums. I'm surprised I even remembered my password. Per David's first message, you snooze you lose. It was a mis-communication between me and Josh at titledisc. I thought I had given him the green light but many messages from him went to my Spam folder in Yahoo. I did not realize he was waiting for me to review it. Anyway I never care whether people send me checks or use titledisc, just want to give people options.

Festivus 2009 is essentially full. If you did not mail your registration or contact me on Wednesday 1/7 you will most likely be on the wait list.

Here is the updated registration list as of Wednesday night:

First Name, Last Name, Div Code
Toni Hoyman FPO
Celeste Scandiffio FW1
Sarah Johnson FW1
Zoe AnDyke FW1
Jessie Ziegler FW1
Laura Bryngelson FW2
Cindy McMahan FW2
Amber Cochran FW2
Kim Smothers FW2
Tami Allen FW3
Karen Oconnor FW3
Lonoah Babcock FW3
Tewa Phimasome MA1
Mike Key MA1
Chris Cusack MA1
Josh Johnson MA1
Chris Wilcox MA1
Mathew Sommer MA1
Marcus Durbin MA1
Mark Martin MA1
Justin Hiatt MA1
Ron Owings MA1
John Kinder MA1
Marcus Crespi MA1
Phil Quinn MA1
Casey Lohrman MA1
Crist Garcia MA1
Tyler Davio MA1
Eric Lund MA1
Nick Bonzey MA2
Jerah Gumm MA2
Dave Stewart MA2
Ricky Scott MA2
Robert Jones MA2
Jason West MA2
Kevin Watson MA2
James Hooper MA2
Chris Quinn MA2
Sam Gibson MA2
Mike Gibson MA2
Craig Banner MA2
Scott Duvaul MA2
Chris Dimbat MA2
Richard Raymond MA2
Hyatt Green MA2
Ted Harbaugh MA3
Michael Krasilovsky MA3
Josh Powell MA3
Tyler Pickett MA3
Kent Smothers MA3
Bob Fultz MG1
Jim Dubay MG1
Ralph Huntoon MG1
David Pittman MG1
Gene Fackler MG1
Jesse Grasseth MM1
Dan Hammett MM1
Gawain Stern MM1
Kevin Allen MM1
Wayne Harvey MM1
Sean Benson MM1
Don Baughman MM1
Dennis Swanson MM1
Eric Smith MM1
Rick Reichard MM1
Greg Alpert MM1
Greg Johnson MM1
Rory Wade MPM
Jay Sexton MPM
Jeff Hagerty MPM
Matt Benotsch MPO
John Ollis MPO
Kirk McAllister MPO
Brad McDougall MPO
Ben Van Dusen MPO
Bart Yanoch MPO
Logan Grasseth MPO
Kelly Christiansen MPO
Justin Skinnell MPO
Jesse Seibel MPO
Nate Sexton MPO
Mike Storrs MPO
Brandon Hill MPO
Ryan Lane MPO
Coury Coates MPO
Mannie Cervantes MPO
Victor Cervantes MPO

Hopefully we will get a drying pattern in the week before the tournament. I imagine there is a river between the parking lot and tournament central. Come prepared with rain gear in case it is more than just windy per the disc design forecast.

Food for lunch is lined up with club members including Beer and some chili from Calapooia. Mark and Laura will both be playing this year. Make sure you thank them for all their support of our sport.

AM Players pack discs will be Custom Stamped Champion Boss, Monarch, Wraith, and Starfires.

Everyone will get a microfiber towel again this year which may cause the rain to stay away.

Sweet trophies are in the works being made by Rebels club member John Linder. If you were fortunate to get one at the 2007 Lava Launch or 2008 Hyzer Pines Shoot Out trophies, you know what I am talking about. Sorry no trophies for Recreational Divisions.

Happy Festivus!

discgolfgreg

[smobro]

Originally Posted by discgolfgreg

Thanks David,

Sorry folks I have been too busy and don't regularly check forums. I'm surprised I even remembered my password. Per David's first message, you snooze you lose. It was a mis-communication between me and Josh at titledisc. I thought I had given him the green light but many messages from him went to my Spam folder in Yahoo. I did not realize he was waiting for me to review it. Anyway I never care whether people send me checks or use titledisc, just want to give people options.

Festivus 2009 is essentially full. If you did not mail your registration or contact me on Wednesday 1/7 you will most likely be on the wait list.

Here is the updated registration list as of Wednesday night:

First Name, Last Name, Div Code
Toni Hoyman FPO
Celeste Scandiffio FW1
Sarah Johnson FW1
Zoe AnDyke FW1
Jessie Ziegler FW1
Laura Bryngelson FW2
Cindy McMahan FW2
Amber Cochran FW2
Kim Smothers FW2
Tami Allen FW3
Karen Oconnor FW3
Lonoah Babcock FW3
Tewa Phimasome MA1
Mike Key MA1
Chris Cusack MA1
Josh Johnson MA1
Chris Wilcox MA1
Mathew Sommer MA1
Marcus Durbin MA1
Mark Martin MA1
Justin Hiatt MA1
Ron Owings MA1
John Kinder MA1
Marcus Crespi MA1
Phil Quinn MA1
Casey Lohrman MA1
Crist Garcia MA1
Tyler Davio MA1
Eric Lund MA1
Nick Bonzey MA2
Jerah Gumm MA2
Dave Stewart MA2
Ricky Scott MA2
Robert Jones MA2
Jason West MA2
Kevin Watson MA2
James Hooper MA2
Chris Quinn MA2
Sam Gibson MA2
Mike Gibson MA2
Craig Banner MA2
Scott Duvaul MA2
Chris Dimbat MA2
Richard Raymond MA2
Hyatt Green MA2
Ted Harbaugh MA3
Michael Krasilovsky MA3
Josh Powell MA3
Tyler Pickett MA3
Kent Smothers MA3
Bob Fultz MG1
Jim Dubay MG1
Ralph Huntoon MG1
David Pittman MG1
Gene Fackler MG1
Jesse Grasseth MM1
Dan Hammett MM1
Gawain Stern MM1
Kevin Allen MM1
Wayne Harvey MM1
Sean Benson MM1
Don Baughman MM1
Dennis Swanson MM1
Eric Smith MM1
Rick Reichard MM1
Greg Alpert MM1
Greg Johnson MM1
Rory Wade MPM
Jay Sexton MPM
Jeff Hagerty MPM
Matt Benotsch MPO
John Ollis MPO
Kirk McAllister MPO
Brad McDougall MPO
Ben Van Dusen MPO
Bart Yanoch MPO
Logan Grasseth MPO
Kelly Christiansen MPO
Justin Skinnell MPO
Jesse Seibel MPO
Nate Sexton MPO
Mike Storrs MPO
Brandon Hill MPO
Ryan Lane MPO
Coury Coates MPO
Mannie Cervantes MPO
Victor Cervantes MPO

Hopefully we will get a drying pattern in the week before the tournament. I imagine there is a river between the parking lot and tournament central. Come prepared with rain gear in case it is more than just windy per the disc design forecast.

Food for lunch is lined up with club members including Beer and some chili from Calapooia. Mark and Laura will both be playing this year. Make sure you thank them for all their support of our sport.

AM Players pack discs will be Custom Stamped Champion Boss, Monarch, Wraith, and Starfires.

Everyone will get a microfiber towel again this year which may cause the rain to stay away.

Sweet trophies are in the works being made by Rebels club member John Linder. If you were fortunate to get one at the 2007 Lava Launch or 2008 Hyzer Pines Shoot Out trophies, you know what I am talking about. Sorry no trophies for Recreational Divisions.

Happy Festivus!

discgolfgreg

I am completely grateful for all you do in putting these events together so please don't take this as any form of dissatisfaction.

Would you mind providing an explanation as to why a particular division would not receive a trophy in a non-pdga event? I am just uncertain as to why it would make sense to exclude a non cash division from receiving a trophy. Didn't that division go out and bust their butts for 44 holes to try and win just like everyone else?

Again, not being critical, just not very certain of the logic behind not offering the trophy to MA3 and FW3. My guess is it is because of the lower entry fee? That would make sense.

Thanks,

[discgolfgreg]

Originally Posted by smobro

I am completely grateful for all you do in putting these events together so please don't take this as any form of dissatisfaction.

Would you mind providing an explanation as to why a particular division would not receive a trophy in a non-pdga event? I am just uncertain as to why it would make sense to exclude a non cash division from receiving a trophy. Didn't that division go out and bust their butts for 44 holes to try and win just like everyone else?

Again, not being critical, just not very certain of the logic behind not offering the trophy to MA3 and FW3. My guess is it is because of the lower entry fee? That would make sense.

Thanks,

Fair question

1) Recreational is the Division by name it implies that people that sign up for the division are more casual golfers that are playing at least as much for fun as for serious competition.

2) I have ordered a limited amount of trophies so the number awarded per divsion will vary based on the size of the division with just 1st place for smaller divisions. I decided to spend much more on nicer functional trophies this year, but there will be a few less to hand out.

3) Maybe those inclined to sand bag by playing Rec while destroying at least 1/2 the Intermediate field will be provoked into moving up. Every event that I have seen a Rec division the person who wins clearly should have been playing Intermediate at least with the guys.

Since I made the Recreational Entry Fee the same as Intermediate this year, that is not a reason but could be a factor in different circumstances. I made them the same mostly to ensure there was still something left for scrip to play for after deducting players pack costs.

Happy Festivus,

Greg

P.S. It is full and the wait list is growing by the hour.

[Trozzle!!!]

As a Rec player, or MA3 as PDGA officially calls it, I have to disagree with 2 of your statements.

1) Recreational is the Division by name it implies that people that sign up for the division are more casual golfers that are playing at least as much for fun as for serious competition.


In the 3 events that I have played Rec, I mean MA3 in, they were they most fun tournament rounds I have ever played in. But, saying that Rec players are playing for fun as much as competition is wrong. Yeah, the rounds tend to be more casual an fun without the stress of trying to win the upper divisions. Competition? yes we do try to compete as hard as anybody in any other division. We are just competing against players more at our skill level, or in the case of PDGA events, we are playing the proper division that our player ratings put us in. The old Rec divison from a few years back, was normally trophy only, or sometimes even no trophy, just glory. It was the division for people who played like crap, were new, or just wanted to play in a tourney and wasnt really trying to win anything. That is not the case now. MA3 is a legitimate division, just lower rated players and its not even the lowest division one could play in.

3) Maybe those inclined to sand bag by playing Rec while destroying at least 1/2 the Intermediate field will be provoked into moving up. Every event that I have seen a Rec division the person who wins clearly should have been playing Intermediate at least with the guys.


MA3 is for any player rated under 900. if someone is rated 899 and their only competition is a player rate 720 or so, it isnt really sandbagging, and is completely acceptable to be playing in that division. In my 3 MA3 tourneys, two of them were won by someone who clearly dominated in the end scores. If they had played in INT, they would have finished mid pack. Not a bad result, but it obviously would have taken away their chance to actually have a tourney victory. By the way, those 2 guys were both playing in their first PDGA tourney, and had no rating, so they were in the correct division. The 3rd person to win in my MA3 playing was me. If you know me, you would know I am far from sandbagging by winning that event. I won by 7 strokes I believe, which was nice, but it was also a bit of luck, since I was 799 rated at the time, not a high rating.

I know this event isnt PDGA, so their official rules dont apply here. And I also know that in this case, the TD made this ruling, and anyone still playing in MA3, or FW3 for that matter, either moves up, or lives with the TD's ruling.

[Trozzle!!!]

on a more personal note. you said "the person who wins clearly should have been playing Intermediate at least with the guys."

Are you trying to say that us Rec, or MA3 guys dont count as one of the guys? Are we just the redheaded stepchildren of this sport?

[smobro]

3) Maybe those inclined to sand bag by playing Rec while destroying at least 1/2 the Intermediate field will be provoked into moving up. Every event that I have seen a Rec division the person who wins clearly should have been playing Intermediate at least with the guys.

Damn. I have no snappy comeback or articulate statement. Just a question:

What is sandbagging?

[smobro]

Originally Posted by smobro

3) Maybe those inclined to sand bag by playing Rec while destroying at least 1/2 the Intermediate field will be provoked into moving up. Every event that I have seen a Rec division the person who wins clearly should have been playing Intermediate at least with the guys.

Damn. I have no snappy comeback or articulate statement. Just a question:

What is sandbagging?

Lets take this to a different thread. I will create it.

I really do appreciate all the hard work.

[all2common]

Originally Posted by Trozzle!!!

Are we just the redheaded stepchildren of this sport?

Just you Troy.