My best birdie...

[KenGilmore]

Originally Posted by Bruce

And Ken that is an awesome start at Milo, I went out yesterday for a few quick holes before the Mother's day festivities began and started 3,2,2. It was a great feeling.

Wow, 3-2-2 is a smoking start. My 2nd shot on hole 1 went into the middle of that little tree near the crest of the hill which prevented the look at 3.

Nonetheless, I can't imagine seeing many deuces on the 2nd hole in the long position. What route do you take?

I tried the forehand roller up the skinny gap and then hit a long, straddle jump putt from right by the short position.

[gwillim]

Originally Posted by KenGilmore

Nonetheless, I can't imagine seeing many deuces on the 2nd hole in the long position. What route do you take?

I birdied it on Friday with a lefty hyzer. Took a really, really flippy driver up the left path, gave it moderate power and lots of hyzer, it slowly flipped up to flat and then contacted the ground around the short placement. Plus 25 foot skip and I had a 25' putt.

I really like seeing people throw the tight gap, it actually works quite often. Bart told me he almost aced it that way a few days ago!

[rustynail]

I got a bird at HH Canyon course #12. Tough shot through the trees with the man made wall to the right. Drove it 3 ft from the basket. I couldn't believe it when I walked up! Won CTP at Brennen Jones open Intermediate Division. I'll be back next year for the event. It was my first event and I had a blast. I'll be back next year. Looking forward to the 3rd course being completed!

[Pizzel]

Originally Posted by gwillim

I birdied it on Friday with a lefty hyzer. Took a really, really flippy driver up the left path, gave it moderate power and lots of hyzer, it slowly flipped up to flat and then contacted the ground around the short placement. Plus 25 foot skip and I had a 25' putt.

I really like seeing people throw the tight gap, it actually works quite often. Bart told me he almost aced it that way a few days ago!

I picked up a few birds on this placement this winter throwing a backhand roller through the left path.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by snap7times

Which #16?
And that brings up another topic, Hole #6W or original #1 was changed to a Par 4 last year for the BSF, which I disagreed with, so based on the casual play, that was a birdie, based on BSF 2008, that was par, wonder if Flash will chime in on this and tell us if its going back to par 5 or staying a brutal par 4?

My best birds at Milo have been at 7E, parked 2nd shot for under 10 foot putt. 25 footer for 3 on 9E aka, the genius. Keep missing the bird opps on the super long 14E...

6W... AKA 1 of 27 is a par 4 for the fling. and 7W in the long position is now a par 4 as well.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by snap7times

That makes no sense, sorry buddy, what about the holes that get bird'd more than half the time, should we change that to a par 2? And I've watched more than my share of Pros on that hole - 6W/#1 out of 27, there are a few that get their sights on a 3 but from like 25-75 feet, there is rarely ever anything under 25 for a 3. Most get the easy 4 or 5 yes, but that's the same thing as ball golf. Par 5, there are way more eagles on a par 5 in Golf than there are in Disc Golf, why prevent the chances at an Eagle? #1 is a tough hole for those who don't have awesome power and control and to string together 3 great shots to get a putt for a par 4, that sucks dog... I want birdie 4!

7W is a good example, it is 100 times easier to get a par 4 on this hole than #1/#6W, birdie 3's are wayyyyyyy easier as well, heck 2's even happen on this hole, why make it a par 4 when I know more than half the Pro field get a 3 on this hole? HMMM HMMM?

2's on 7W long? Have you seen the hole? You are NOT going to see a lot of those, if any. The drive will have been extremely risky even for a top-level pro, and then they will still have to can a big putt.

[TreeLove]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

2's on 7W long? Have you seen the hole? You are NOT going to see a lot of those, if any. The drive will have been extremely risky even for a top-level pro, and then they will still have to can a big putt.

I would like to propose that no one be allowed to post anything about any hole at Milo without hyperlinking to an aerial view and a teepad photograph so we can tell which hole is being referred to. Hole numbers just don't so it for me any more. I never know if they're:

old 27-hole layout numbering system
new 27-hole layout numbering system
18+9 park's layout numbering system
18+18 BSF tournament's layout numbering system

Maybe if we just named the holes:
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z ! @ # $ % ^ & * ~
it would make more sense.

Just funnin' - I love all the efforts being put in at Milo - THANK YOU Volunteers, State Parks, BSF Sponsors, PDGA, players & staff - I AM STOKED!

[gwillim]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

2's on 7W long? Have you seen the hole? You are NOT going to see a lot of those, if any. The drive will have been extremely risky even for a top-level pro, and then they will still have to can a big putt.

A two in the short position is possible, but would take a huge throw, followed by a rather large putt. I've had putts for two at it, but I was still about 60 feet short. Even then, most of the times I have tried to get it there, I've thrown OB.

As for the long position, there is not a top-level pro in the world that would be stupid enough to try and park that with OB left, right and behind the basket. How far is it anyhow? I can't conceive anyone being able to put it within 50' by throwing a "golf shot", not to mention being in-bounds.

[snap7times]

Originally Posted by gwillim

A two in the short position is possible, but would take a huge throw, followed by a rather large putt. I've had putts for two at it, but I was still about 60 feet short. Even then, most of the times I have tried to get it there, I've thrown OB.

As for the long position, there is not a top-level pro in the world that would be stupid enough to try and park that with OB left, right and behind the basket. How far is it anyhow? I can't conceive anyone being able to put it within 50' by throwing a "golf shot", not to mention being in-bounds.

Okay, I was trying to make a point but guess I didn't try hard enough... Hole 6W has been changed to a par 4 because too many pros birdie this in 4 when its a par 5 while birdie 3's almost never happen and are incredibly rare. I was just trying to show that this logic makes no sense when applying it to hole 7W because most of the Pros will 3 this hole and a 2 has been done before, I was only 2 holes away when Gregg Barsby did it last year. I myself have parked the long position on 7W for a drop in 3 and felt awesome about it, but was disapointed that I will probably never have a chance at a birdie 3 on 6W which is incredibly rare, same for a 2 on 7W. Just tryin to justify my argument to make 6W a par 5 instead of a 4 because how many Pros, let alone anyone else will birdie this hole in 3? Maybe the same amount of people that could Eagle 2 hole 7W; or even better, since most pros will 3 hole 7W, make it a par 3!?.... Before I ramble on some more, would like to see the stats of hole score breakdown on 6W and 7W from 2008 BSF to prove my point heh.
And I'm just offering good discussion here, no emotions involved... nor are there any wrong answers...

[Pizzel]

Originally Posted by snap7times

Okay, I was trying to make a point but guess I didn't try hard enough... Hole 6W has been changed to a par 4 because too many pros birdie this in 4 when its a par 5 while birdie 3's almost never happen and are incredibly rare. I was just trying to show that this logic makes no sense when applying it to hole 7W because most of the Pros will 3 this hole and a 2 has been done before, I was only 2 holes away when Gregg Barsby did it last year. I myself have parked the long position on 7W for a drop in 3 and felt awesome about it, but was disapointed that I will probably never have a chance at a birdie 3 on 6W which is incredibly rare, same for a 2 on 7W. Just tryin to justify my argument to make 6W a par 5 instead of a 4 because how many Pros, let alone anyone else will birdie this hole in 3? Maybe the same amount of people that could Eagle 2 hole 7W; or even better, since most pros will 3 hole 7W, make it a par 3!?.... Before I ramble on some more, would like to see the stats of hole score breakdown on 6W and 7W from 2008 BSF to prove my point heh.
And I'm just offering good discussion here, no emotions involved... nor are there any wrong answers...

1) I have played with many, many, many, many.......pros who have scored a 3 on 6W. In fact, my winnie arm has led to a 3 on 6W.

2) Barsby's 2 on 7W was nothing but "fairway slop". He was at least 170 ft. out and got some help from a few tree branches......would have been OB had he not stuck it in the chains.

[snap7times]

Originally Posted by Pizzel

1) I have played with many, many, many, many.......pros who have scored a 3 on 6W. In fact, my winnie arm has led to a 3 on 6W.

2) Barsby's 2 on 7W was nothing but "fairway slop". He was at least 170 ft. out and got some help from a few tree branches......would have been OB had he not stuck it in the chains.

Your weinie arm got a 3? If you call 350-400 ft drives weinie, gosh I would hate to see you pumping steriods like Manny and being able to throw 500-600... I would be happy to get my 2nd shot near the big tree in the center of the fairway up the hill let alone have my 2nd shot land less than 75 feet from the basket.
Alot of aces are slop as well but we call them aces
Also another question i wanted to present is, why is it so bad to have an eagle opportunity here and there like in ball golf?
Also as someone mentioned earlier, they could make 2 mistakes and still get a 5, I call BS on that for hole 6W...

[KenGilmore]

Pay attention! Jason does not have a wienie arm, he has a winnie arm. There is a difference: one can't throw far, the other is experiencing the Wonder Years.

PS - Jason likes a little privacy when he is experiencing the Wonder Years.

[KenGilmore]

Originally Posted by Pizzel

...was nothing but "fairway slop".

Ha, reminds me of winnie arms.

[NWDiscer]

Milo today i watched Mr. Bruce throw his drive threw the early right hand window on hole #15 of the 27 layout i think it is...the normal turnover into the trees with the huge tree right by the basket well it is in the B placement up top and he crushes a Boss on an anny line thru the gap 60'+ high all of 20' wide....... i know most of us never never even look at this window as it is not a normal human throw..... next time your at The Bend you know the hole it leads to the short tech.holes

i heard rumor that Avery threw a Roc at this same window a few years ago and parked it......Bruce was 20' past the basket just off the chips made his 2......... I wonder just how close he came to an Ace....would have been SWEET to watch it come in over the tree tops.


1 of the SICKEST 2's i have seen.

[Pizzel]

Originally Posted by KenGilmore

Pay attention! Jason does not have a wienie arm, he has a winnie arm. There is a difference: one can't throw far, the other is experiencing the Wonder Years.

PS - Jason likes a little privacy when he is experiencing the Wonder Years.

Oh Ken.......winnie is Cockney for wienie. I am surprised you didn't know that!

[Flash]

Originally Posted by snap7times

Okay, I was trying to make a point but guess I didn't try hard enough... Hole 6W has been changed to a par 4 because too many pros birdie this in 4 when its a par 5 while birdie 3's almost never happen and are incredibly rare. I was just trying to show that this logic makes no sense when applying it to hole 7W because most of the Pros will 3 this hole and a 2 has been done before, I was only 2 holes away when Gregg Barsby did it last year. I myself have parked the long position on 7W for a drop in 3 and felt awesome about it, but was disapointed that I will probably never have a chance at a birdie 3 on 6W which is incredibly rare, same for a 2 on 7W. Just tryin to justify my argument to make 6W a par 5 instead of a 4 because how many Pros, let alone anyone else will birdie this hole in 3? Maybe the same amount of people that could Eagle 2 hole 7W; or even better, since most pros will 3 hole 7W, make it a par 3!?.... Before I ramble on some more, would like to see the stats of hole score breakdown on 6W and 7W from 2008 BSF to prove my point heh.
And I'm just offering good discussion here, no emotions involved... nor are there any wrong answers...

Oh Snap you play so rough for someone who has no evidence to support his claim.
I have statistical data for 4 years that shows that 6W is a par 4, now it is a difficult par 4 and plays the 3 hardest hole on that side but it is a par 4 end of story. The par on the courses is for a 1000 rated golfer, and is a little weak at that, the SSA for the West course is a 57.XX while the par is 60!

Hole 7W is a par 4 and so is 6W, and both have had 2's scored on them in tournament play, now go wrap your mind around a two on hole 6 W!

I don't have a best birdie, I am delighted to just get birdies!!!!!

[Greg_R]

2's on 7W long? Have you seen the hole? You are NOT going to see a lot of those, if any.

7W used to be an easy 3 with very little scoring separation for the pro division. The basket was moved back to make it a harder 3 (since 2s were so rare, even in the short position). This resulted in a better separation (your drive needs placement, otherwise you have to get around the guardian trees).

6W is definitely a 4. If the basket were back further in the woods toward the left it might become a 5 (due to OB road and dense woods). However, I think the current placement results in some nice scoring separation for the pro division (where the deeper placement may result in a lot of 4s).

[jevon]

Got my best birdie last night at Pier hole 9. After getting a double on 8 and telling myself the only shot that matters is the next one, I step up to the box and unleash a high anny. Didn't hit any trees but left it real short. So I tell myself again that the only shot that matters is the next one and pull out my putter. Nailed it from ~108 feet! Followed up with an awesome anny and a 10 foot birdie on 10. Never had back to back birds at Pier before.

[Sausage Fingers]

Originally Posted by jevon

Got my best birdie last night at Pier hole 9. After getting a double on 8 and telling myself the only shot that matters is the next one, I step up to the box and unleash a high anny. Didn't hit any trees but left it real short. So I tell myself again that the only shot that matters is the next one and pull out my putter. Nailed it from ~108 feet! Followed up with an awesome anny and a 10 foot birdie on 10. Never had back to back birds at Pier before.

BAGGER!

[Sam]

Nice, Jevon! IT WORKS!