Fort Steilacoom Open **A-Tier** (July 3rd & 4th, 2010)

[Yardbird]

$80 for Advanced is still a little high for an A-tier.

Are the player's packs worth $40 or so? Is lunch included? How much is going to the club? Hopefully $5 or $10 at the rate of the entry fee.

I can see the pro side entry being high, but the Am side. Do you really think that the winner of Adanced needs or wants $300 of new plastic.

Even for an A-tier, $75 should be about the limit for the Advanced division with $60 being the norm.

[Yardbird]

For us old schoolers that want to mail in an entry form, can someone post an link or file that works. I can't seem to download the tourney flyer from the online sign-up website.

Thanks

[Rideout]

Sorry about the flyer. I am currently trying to fix the problem.

I have attached the flyer to this post.

[aaron]

$80 I would like to play but I would also like to know whats in the players pack before I hand over $80.

[Flash]

Originally Posted by aaron

$80 I would like to play but I would also like to know whats in the players pack before I hand over $80.

Hey $80.00 dollars may seem high but it is not extreme by any means. I paid way more for Worlds last year and I can guarantee that Mike will run a better event then what I experienced on the amateur side of things at worlds. Mike is a great TD and you need to give him a little more respect then this. He is stepping up to keep this event alive in an off year for Jason.

I know how he feels as I have been cast into that roll in the past when I was not willing to watch the Beaver State Fling fade away. So please relax on the reply key. If the price is too expensive for you then offer to volunteer to help Mike out, I am sure he will have some volunteer packs to hand out for your services.

Help him out by making suggestions for Player pack items or even offering to be his assistant TD, his volunteer coordinator or sponsorship coordinator. He will not turn you down because I know he has so much on his plate and would enjoy being able to rely on someone to help make everything come together. You can help him make the event the best that it can be!

[DexterHawk]

Just sent my entry in and happily paid a whole lot more that $80. Thanks in Advanced Rideout... this is going to be fun!

[sillybizz]

Does it come with $80 in chips? This a poker tournament right?

[ScottW]

Those FSO super color fundraisers are sweet looking. I wasn't very impressed with the hotstamp on the discs that I saw on discgolfvalues. I didn't think it was a very good representation of what disc golfers want. Not good to show off to others who are learning about the sport or businesses who consider sponsoring the sport. Just my 2 cents - I'm probably gonna get blasted for that now...

[all2common]

Originally Posted by ScottW

Those FSO super color fundraisers are sweet looking. I wasn't very impressed with the hotstamp on the discs that I saw on discgolfvalues. I didn't think it was a very good representation of what disc golfers want. Not good to show off to others who are learning about the sport or businesses who consider sponsoring the sport. Just my 2 cents - I'm probably gonna get blasted for that now...

This is the stamp that has some chick sitting on a mushroom, right? With ants - which are applicable to Steilacoom - around the border? I ordered a couple of t-birds and wondered what the connection is...my roommates were equally confused about the stamp.

[scottycb1]

Originally Posted by all2common

This is the stamp that has some chick sitting on a mushroom, right? With ants - which are applicable to Steilacoom - around the border? I ordered a couple of t-birds and wondered what the connection is...my roommates were equally confused about the stamp.

Thats right guys keep complaining about that $80 advanced fee. When the tournament kicks ass, eat your words. This is an A tier, it will fill, if you dont want to play cause of the money than dont. BTW you dont hear one of us pros complaining (even those who dont often cash) and we pay a lot more than $80, and never once mention or expect a players pack.

[SPIDER-DAN]

Ha........sounds like your describing my pro career.

[Joshua Olmsted]

Personally, I don't have any problem putting up $80 for a tournament, but at the same time, I think that people shouldn't be frowned upon for asking basic questions like what might be in the players pack. For a lot of folks the $30 difference between a $50 tournament and an $80 tournament is very significant in their everyday life.

[Yardbird]

There is a different philosphy between the Pro and Am divisons. Yes, the Pros are more competitive and would warrant a higher entry fee. The Ams play tournaments for the social side with the benefits of playing courses in their prime. The Ams don't expect a whole lot of return, thus the lower entry fee.

I, personally, don't expect a players pack or payout, except for the top three places. The whole tournament experience is worth the entry fee, but as the entry rises then the expected return is greater. If the entry fee is greater than $40, then I would expect something in return besides the luxury of playing in the event, regardless of how good or bad that I play.

[TreeLove]

Originally Posted by Yardbird

For us old schoolers that want to mail in an entry form, can someone post an link or file that works. I can't seem to download the tourney flyer from the online sign-up website.

Thanks

http://home.comcast.net/~accuspeed/Flyers/FSOflyer2010.pdf

[Tim]

Originally Posted by Joshua Olmsted

Personally, I don't have any problem putting up $80 for a tournament, but at the same time, I think that people shouldn't be frowned upon for asking basic questions like what might be in the players pack. For a lot of folks the $30 difference between a $50 tournament and an $80 tournament is very significant in their everyday life.

Been out of touch for the last week or so, but I agree with this. It's a fair question. In the past, FSO has had minimal player packs in favor of a beefy payout, but Jason has always been up front that his tourneys are very much winnings based. I don't think anyone doubts Mike's ability to run a great tourney, but it's reasonable to ask what to expect in terms of how the money's being allocated, especially considering that BSF--known for great player packs--cost $5 less.

[all2common]

Originally Posted by scottycb1

Thats right guys keep complaining about that $80 advanced fee. When the tournament kicks ass, eat your words. This is an A tier, it will fill, if you dont want to play cause of the money than dont. BTW you dont hear one of us pros complaining (even those who dont often cash) and we pay a lot more than $80, and never once mention or expect a players pack.

Didn't realize that I was complaining about the cost to play this tournament. My intention was to note the oddity of the stamp on the fundraiser discs that I bought to support the event...and I intend to play the event. I have a crush on Rideout and try to support his gigs when I can.

[Rideout]

Aaahhhhh Justin, now that’s just the sweetest thing I’ve ever heard.


According to the PDGA, I am charging $10 more than they would like in all pro and advanced divisions. The intermediate division is being charged exactly what the PDGA suggests.


The hot stamp was a risky choice; time will tell if it was a mistake or not.


***This is not etched in stone; This could Change***
I am still working on the players packs, but they should be valued close to $40. If things work out, every am player will get a custom stamped stool and something else.


I am looking for volunteers. Please contact me if you are interested.


Mike

[REDFIVE]

I think the discs are neat.

[DMajor]

If alice in wonderland was filmed in Tacoma it would look something like that. I now expect the tournament to be a magical journey of new experiences and personal growth........

[mazza]

Originally Posted by Rideout

Aaahhhhh Justin, now that’s just the sweetest thing I’ve ever heard.


According to the PDGA, I am charging $10 more than they would like in all pro and advanced divisions. The intermediate division is being charged exactly what the PDGA suggests.


The hot stamp was a risky choice; time will tell if it was a mistake or not.


***This is not etched in stone; This could Change***
I am still working on the players packs, but they should be valued close to $40. If things work out, every am player will get a custom stamped stool and something else.


I am looking for volunteers. Please contact me if you are interested.


Mike

hey mike if i volunteer instead of playing. would i get a super special player pack??(i'm gonna think not) if not could i just buy a player pack?