Just got em havent thrown em but they are kind of weird. Innova used the new XG champion plastic and to get the discs up to max weight they modified the inside rim to be bigger at the top than at the bottom. the inside rim goes out pretty far. the plastic is awesome, it's the firmest champion plastic i have felt but it is crazy grippy. the discs feel pretty good in the hand. looking forward to throwing them to see if the flight has changed or if it is even comfortable to release such an odd rim.
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I got one from disc golf values and threw it today. Did not seem to fly that much differently from my other champ and star birds. a little more stable, but they were 7 -10 grams heavier than I prefer. I like em....they are stiff and the nose seems thicker.