Sharpy accomplishments on baskets

[Ol' Bob]

I'm sorry I confused your poll. I leaped from the thread title to the answers with the assumption that the title was going to basically be the question, yea or nay. Confusions like this today are purposely done in what are called, "push polls." It's a way of skewing reports on public opinion. The title is in bold and the first words of the poll question got me to jump. Yes, it was my fault for not being careful. I know you didn't intend any deceit. I'm madder at myself for screwing it up.

[blang11]

Originally Posted by Ol' Bob

I'm sorry I confused your poll. I leaped from the thread title to the answers with the assumption that the title was going to basically be the question, yea or nay. Confusions like this today are purposely done in what are called, "push polls." It's a way of skewing reports on public opinion. The title is in bold and the first words of the poll question got me to jump. Yes, it was my fault for not being careful. I know you didn't intend any deceit. I'm madder at myself for screwing it up.

Huh, I didn't think of that. Fair point. Though I'm not smart enough to manipulate people on purpose.

[Pizzel]

Originally Posted by Ol' Bob

I'm sorry I confused your poll. I leaped from the thread title to the answers with the assumption that the title was going to basically be the question, yea or nay. Confusions like this today are purposely done in what are called, "push polls." It's a way of skewing reports on public opinion. The title is in bold and the first words of the poll question got me to jump. Yes, it was my fault for not being careful. I know you didn't intend any deceit. I'm madder at myself for screwing it up.

Bob, I made the same mistake. My mistake was reading the thread title and not the pool title. Please don't write on the baskets. It's an eye sore.

[emmarose]

Originally Posted by blang11

Wow, I guess I should not have been surprised at the vitriol this thread would induce in many of the users here...I mean it is an internet forum after all. I really don't think the exact count of the poll needs to be taken into consideration. It's obvious that the "yes"s have it. And it makes me laugh to hear that the poll was "poorly constructed"! It's one sentence with a "yes", "no", and "maybe" answer set. It simply requires one to read it. Also, to anyone who's taken the topic of this specific incident to great lengths of generalization and hyperbole, I'm sorry for contributing to the poisoning of america's youth value system. I actually thought my posting was somewhat humble and self repentant in its approach. Oh well, lesson learned. Thanks for everyone weighing in. It was informative, and at times, hilarious. I'll talk to Bob the next time I go out to Hornings and see what I can do about covering up the sharpie, that is if he even considers it a worthy investment of time.

I think it was good of you to think on it, and you did humble yourself to broach this subject and I think it's pretty great that you care so much... people just love to get all fired up on the forums...

I also think that it is behavior that should be discouraged and refrained from simply because it is not terribly acceptable on all courses... I like the idea of an accomplishment board, tho... there will always be those crude and vulgar folk who will take it too far and ruin these lovely little traditions for everyone... the slippery when wet sign being a perfect example... maybe funny for you and I, but certainly not for my young niece or my dear grammy... (I know, I know, neither of whom are out golfing the Canyon... but someday my niece will be there... and it won't be funny then either... )

peace threw disc golf,
em

[erp]

You were forthright and raised an honest discussion, I for one appreciated it.

Some humans litter on courses, others snarl on forums, you, however furthered the debate and did so with dignity.

Many more aces to you, don't write on the baskets ;-)

Originally Posted by blang11

Wow, I guess I should not have been surprised at the vitriol this thread would induce in many of the users here...I mean it is an internet forum after all. I really don't think the exact count of the poll needs to be taken into consideration. It's obvious that the "yes"s have it. And it makes me laugh to hear that the poll was "poorly constructed"! It's one sentence with a "yes", "no", and "maybe" answer set. It simply requires one to read it. Also, to anyone who's taken the topic of this specific incident to great lengths of generalization and hyperbole, I'm sorry for contributing to the poisoning of america's youth value system. I actually thought my posting was somewhat humble and self repentant in its approach. Oh well, lesson learned. Thanks for everyone weighing in. It was informative, and at times, hilarious. I'll talk to Bob the next time I go out to Hornings and see what I can do about covering up the sharpie, that is if he even considers it a worthy investment of time.

[Parks]

I just get a tattoo of a basket every time I get an ace.

[mazza]

Originally Posted by Parks

I just get a tattoo of a basket every time I get an ace.

so wheres the first tattoo gonna go...lmao

[TreeLove]

I think Red 5 said it best: "great shot, clean the basket." And I respect Blang for reconsidering his act.

[Joshua Olmsted]

I'll throw my vote in with Tim's sentiment and to some degree Bob Hornings, have I personally signed any baskets, no. But on the whole it doesn't really bother me, as long as it's small and unobtrusive it's not like it's damaging the hole or changing my overall experience on the disc golf course. I generally like little things that add personal flair to a golf course, as long as it's in good taste. A good example for me would be the bottle cap tree stump seat on Dabney hole 14's tee pad. Do I like litter all over a course, no, but I think the stump's kind of neat. I guess I just feel like there's much more serious and prevalent vandalism and other issues at most courses.

Just my $.02

[Ol' Bob]

The trouble always seems to come back to, "nothing is kid-proof, or sailor-proof." Things that could be good things get turned into crappy things. We could have Peace Park, or Singapore...love-ins, or lock-down. I thought that penny tree seemed pretty cool, but it was too much for some folks. One of Murphy's Laws states, "If you play with something long enough, you'll break it." Rodney King asked, "Can't we all just get along?" What is it about allowing some level of fee expression in public? Someone will have to say, "Mine's Bigger," and say it too loud. Then, in reaction, we'll get the trains running on time, but taking us to nice clean and orderly camps. It's a hard call, where to draw the lines. Inside cultures, across cultures, large and small divides. The planet is getting smaller, the cages tighter. The lab rats react and act very unrat.

What were we talkin' about?

[mazza]

Originally Posted by Ol' Bob

What were we talkin' about?

the new and improved invisible baskets

[Ol' Bob]

Have you really lost your mind? If you want to knock that guy's teeth out with your forehead, I suggest you get that brick wall out of the way.

[mazza]

Originally Posted by Ol' Bob

Have you really lost your mind? If you want to knock that guy's teeth out with your forehead, I suggest you get that brick wall out of the way.

i see no bricks...only a mando with a ob line

[Ol' Bob]

Originally Posted by mazza

Literal smileys.

[Bob Horning]

<<"Hey guys I went ahead and PMed Bob Horning and asked how he felt about people writing on his baskets since my original post was pertaining to an incident that happened on his course. Below is his response to me that he said I could repost on this thread.


Quote:
Hi Cindy, Actually it is OK, for to me it adds a personal touch to the course and lets the one who aced it have a nice way to connect and add their own individually to it. Eventually we'll have to repaint them all anyway, to as long as they don't get carried away or as long as their is no defacing then I don't have a problem.
Thanks for watching out for us, I do appreciate it greatly!!
Thanks, Bob

When I get my first ace I still am only going to have my disc signed that's just how I feel personally on the subject.

Cindy">>

PS I did sign the two baskets I aced at Horning's, but I did not sign the three aces I go at Leverich #2. Dang five in one year. I probably won't get another one for about five years now.

PSS Congrats on the Eagle.

Cindy

Hi all, some folks bring up a very good point, that if it's done here what's to stop it from not encouraging it elsewhere, did not think of that good point. The reason I did not feel it was too bad here was two fold, one, hopefully folks would take more ownership and pride of the area and help keep a low impact on the area, and two, The baskets will need periodical painting so the markings disappear rather easily.

It sounds like a conscientious though is that the best thing to do is not have the markings, so as the weather permits I'll simply go around with a can of paint and take care of it. Live and learn.

I've been rather pressed for time lately, but I intend to address another matter soon. I will be looking to place another recycle can or two on the Meadow Ridge course to hopefully cut down on some of the beer cans out there, probably by basket #12 and on the road right below #17. The problem with the upper ridge line is access and trying to keep golf carts off the trails to help keep erosion down. My thanks to those who do watch out for the courses, it is much appreciated

[ChUcK]

Originally Posted by Bob Horning

if it's done here what's to stop it from not encouraging it elsewhere

Well, really the baskets at Elsewhere usually don't provide such a large yellow canvas for tagging. Signing the pole on a Mach III isn't that cool or noticeable, but I see someone's attempt every now and then.

Only Innova's bandits really afford any space to tag remotely comparable to the Horning's design, so it's not 100% fair to say that tagging at Horning's leads to tagging everywhere else, but to say that one will never lead to the other is a stretch.

[Eric Olson]

Originally Posted by blang11

Only now do I realize this may have been a stupid thing to do because (A) I'm defacing someone else's property, and (B) some might not even think the accomplishment warrants that much celebration.

Correct on both points.

[Cody Cornett]

Address what happened and not what might happen. You can't 100% predict what people will do, or predict that someone will interpret self-proclaiming gaffiti as a go ahead to tag all over the course. Props on the two dude. That hole is nasty so let everyone know that miracles still happen.

[Nate Sexton]

I only sign baskets in a few very specific situations:

1. Aces
2. Eagles
3. A string of birdies over 3, and each subsequent birdie in the streak
4. Putts from outside the 10m circle
5. Tourney winning putts
6. Very difficult par saves

Thats pretty much it...

[Ol' Bob]

Carved in the bark:

D. Boone hit me a bird by this tree. --1803