Add Alternate Pin Placements. - Highbridge

General Scales · #1 June 10th, 2009, 06:15 AM

So I threw my personal best at Highbridge yesterday, a 48

. Had a wonderful game but started to think maybe putting in some alternate pins could make the course more challenging. I'm sure this has been discussed before. How hard could it be?

Eric whippet Brown · #2 June 11th, 2009, 09:45 AM

If your a SDGA member you can ask the people in charge those questions they could be answered there I would hope.

I know there was a time Downriver was going to get some new pin locations but I dont know what ever happened there, I dont know who told Matt and Troy to dig holes that were never used, but I think who ever told them should do half of the new ones.

if we ever got any? I think we need to have a fund raiser for new anchors?

But I know that any kind of little tourney you do the SDGA wants there cut (what ever that is)

so there should be plenty of money in the club for anchors? But all in all dont take this from me join the SDGA and look for the answers there.

General Scales · #3 June 11th, 2009, 02:13 PM

Hell I work in a metal shop. Making the sleeves would be easy. The real question is would alternate pins be allowed by the city since it all has to be approved by them before the S.D.G.A approves it (at least I believe it's this way).

Wouldn't it be nice to have 5 further down the hill though? I'm tired 230 foot holes and less. Putters should never be used for drives. Come on S.D.G.A!!! Let us all know.

Eric whippet Brown · #4 June 12th, 2009, 10:12 AM

it would be nice to have 5 down further, but from what I heard is that the parks dept doesnt want us to have any of the holes crossing the queer road. So I dont know how long or if we need to chage those holes around or not. Again if you go to a meeting you can tell them making sleeves for the anchors is easy and you can do it, then maybe the ball would get rolling on new pin placements. It's just trying to get the club going on stuff

. I have been part of the club for a while and they move slooooooooow to sloooow if you ask me. Cherry hill, Corbin all have alt pin locations and those courses are fairly new? GO IDAHO Wreckreators. So we need more motivation in our club we need to start spending money on improvements, like new tee signs?

General Scales · #5 June 15th, 2009, 06:39 AM

New tee signs would be excellent.

General Scales · #6 June 24th, 2009, 07:26 AM

So the 48 has jinxed me into throwing a 57, a 56 and a 66!

Play the best game of my life at that course and now start throwing it worse then I was playing it last year

. Amazing how that seems to happen.

Gordy #21004 · #7 June 27th, 2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric whippet Brown

If your a SDGA member you can ask the people in charge those questions they could be answered there I would hope.

I know there was a time Downriver was going to get some new pin locations but I dont know what ever happened there, I dont know who told Matt and Troy to dig holes that were never used, but I think who ever told them should do half of the new ones.

if we ever got any? I think we need to have a fund raiser for new anchors?

But I know that any kind of little tourney you do the SDGA wants there cut (what ever that is)

so there should be plenty of money in the club for anchors? But all in all dont take this from me join the SDGA and look for the answers there.

Hi, Eric. I'm the guy who asked Troy and Matt to scope out some new placements at DR. I'm not so good at hole diggen anymore but the spirit is there. I think I can answer a few questions though. Yes, the Club has $ for stuff like this and C-Re or someone should still have 5 or 6 anchors we could use. Yes, this would be a Club decision and compared to a lot of other stuff we're trying to move foward on this could be relativly simple. Remember, HB is waiting for public $ to rebuild the course and the idea is for alt placements to be the location for the new baskets. Again, we, the 'user' group are waiting for action from Parks (not Lyle). In the meantime I don't think it would be that big of a deal for the Club to spend a little bit of $ and effort to provide some new 'looks' for us. Re; Club Cut. We used to have regular weekly events that generated a buck or two per person to the Club. Most recently Cory and Brian Baily ran them. At the same time there have also been non Club events and that is the subject of considerable discussion which I will not elaborate on here. The result is that folks are tired of the debate; don,t want to be a part of it and as a consequence attendance in either type of event is way down. Anyways, those dollar bills from weekly events and membership is where the money for all the stuff installed at the courses comes from. Gordy. PS 4-Mound is open tomorrow, $5/car.

General Scales · #8 July 2nd, 2009, 12:51 PM

All I know about this is that it would be so nice to move hole 5, 9, 11, 13, 14, 16 17 and 18. 1 and 2 would also be pretty easy to find alternate pin locations for. Now if it ever happens that is a different story. Making anchors isn't difficult. Especially if you work in a precision sheet metal manufacturer and have an owner who plays disc golf whenever he can get out to a course. Come on SDGA, don't let the Idahoans show us up with their courses and alternate pins (and soon to be alternate pads @ Corbin) on all their courses.

joeroyer · #9 August 18th, 2009, 11:55 AM

I am interested in installing the new anchors at HB. I just need the key to the locks and the anchors themselves. Please let me know. I guess a few bucks from the club for concrete would help too but not be a showstopper.

Gordy #21004 · #10 August 18th, 2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by joeroyer

I am interested in installing the new anchors at HB. I just need the key to the locks and the anchors themselves. Please let me know. I guess a few bucks from the club for concrete would help too but not be a showstopper.

Joe, Call me. Gordy.

roadhog · #11 November 3rd, 2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by General Scales

All I know about this is that it would be so nice to move hole 5, 9, 11, 13, 14, 16 17 and 18. 1 and 2 would also be pretty easy to find alternate pin locations for. Now if it ever happens that is a different story. Making anchors isn't difficult. Especially if you work in a precision sheet metal manufacturer and have an owner who plays disc golf whenever he can get out to a course. Come on SDGA, don't let the Idahoans show us up with their courses and alternate pins (and soon to be alternate pads @ Corbin) on all their courses.

do you realize or care that those of us that golf with our kids and go out just for fun really enjoy the short holes!!!!!! seeing my kids (12 & 14) putt for birdy is great. take out the short holes and you take the fun out of it for a lot of people that are just starting or golf with their families.

Parks · #12 November 3rd, 2009, 04:02 PM

Roadhog, I think you should maybe check out Eagle Ridge

My understanding is that there is a small course there with a few short holes.

Why not take the kids out there and play a few rounds?

Alternately, I see you are out in the valley. Corbin Park in Post Falls is about the same drive from there as High Bridge, and it has some great short holes that your kids might like even better.

roadhog · #13 November 3rd, 2009, 07:45 PM

played them all in the area. except four mounds and fairchild. I really enjoy the course layout at high bridge. it is actually my favorite couse in the immediate area. some long some short is great on a course. if all the holes are long whats the point of having a FAMILY sport! when new players and families go to play how long do you think they will stick around if they are scoring 6 or 7 per hole because ALL the holes are too long. leave it with some long and some short so that EVERYONE can enjoy it, not just the long throwers!
P.S. theres also a short course in CDA called blue grass. played that too.

roadhog · #14 November 3rd, 2009, 07:49 PM

how hard would it be to find land in the area and build a long course? instead of limiting where the average can go and have fun. someone out there has to know of someone with land to do such a thing. build it as long as you want. call it a pro course or long course.

catalystdg · #15 November 4th, 2009, 06:12 AM

The SDGA had its board meeting last night and we decided to go ahead with adding 18 more holes at highbridge nine will be put in over fall and winter and another nine in the spring.( providing we raise the funds to purchase all 18 $7000 or so)

catalystdg · #16 November 4th, 2009, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by roadhog

played them all in the area. except four mounds and fairchild. I really enjoy the course layout at high bridge. it is actually my favorite couse in the immediate area. some long some short is great on a course. if all the holes are long whats the point of having a FAMILY sport! when new players and families go to play how long do you think they will stick around if they are scoring 6 or 7 per hole because ALL the holes are too long. leave it with some long and some short so that EVERYONE can enjoy it, not just the long throwers!
P.S. theres also a short course in CDA called blue grass. played that too.

adding alternates does not mean making all the holes longer it is just making more places to put the baskets so we can change it up from time to time.
some pins might be longer, some shorter and some just changed so you have to throw a different route.

roadhog · #17 November 4th, 2009, 12:31 PM

the direction that this thread started out is that General Scales and Parks dont want short holes on the course. they want it more challanging for them. more challaging for them means pretty much impossible for average players and kids. Corbin has alternate baskets and it makes it different not necessarily harder or longer, just different. i am all for alternate tees and baskets but leave it a family course where average people and kids can enjoy it also.

catalystdg · #18 November 4th, 2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by roadhog

the direction that this thread started out is that General Scales and Parks dont want short holes on the course. they want it more challanging for them. more challaging for them means pretty much impossible for average players and kids. Corbin has alternate baskets and it makes it different not necessarily harder or longer, just different. i am all for alternate tees and baskets but leave it a family course where average people and kids can enjoy it also.

they never said they don't want short holes. they want to make the course more chalenging for them wich does not neccesarily mean it plays harder for the beginner. adding alternate pins usually does not effect the overall play of a beginner level player most alternate pins are within 30-40 feet of the original(or originall fairway) the most chalanging thing about alternates is that you aren't throwing the same shot every time.

Parks · #19 November 4th, 2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by roadhog

the direction that this thread started out is that General Scales and Parks dont want short holes on the course.

I never said that.

You said you liked playing some of the short holes with your kids at High Bridge because they could birdie them, so I was making sure that you knew there were other courses in the area with short holes. Filtering people to courses that match their skill level is a win for everyone.

Also, my favorite hole at High Bridge is a short hole (#17, it combines aesthetic appeal with multiple fair routes, and a good scoring range), and I think that some of the shorter holes play really well (#5, its a tough landing zone to control, although it is deuce or die).

That being said, I think that High Bridge and Downriver are fairly redundant. The SSA of each course is 48, give or take a stroke. I would like to see one of them get a more challenging layout. Challenging doesn't necessarily equate with long, as catalystdg pointed out.

Also, putting in a new course is actually pretty difficult. We always seem to be able to get some interest from the city/park/whoever and yet new courses never get put in.

As a final note, pretend that every hole at High Bridge remained exactly the same but had 200 feet added to it (obviously not possible, just make believe). Wouldn't you just start 200 feet closer to the pin if your family or group were just beginners? It wouldn't hurt your experience in any way.

catalystdg · #20 November 8th, 2009, 08:36 AM

i have the locations for 17 alt pin locations and we have the anchors so if anyone wants to help installing them let me know
also the north nine is ready for anchors as well