2009 Oregon Series Points

[Flash]

Here are the updated points before the Calapooia Classic:

2009 Oregon Series Points for Pro

2009 Oregon Series Points for Advanced Amateur

2009 Oregon Series Points for Amateur

If you have any questions or you notice mistakes please let me know. Please reserve the posting in this thread to direct question and answers. If you are wondering how the points are calculated or how the winners are determined feel free to ask.

[Flash]

Rules for points:
1. Points will be awarded based on play within division
2. No points will be awarded for attending
3. No points will be awarded for DNF
4. Points are only awarded for regular play; final 9’s do no count toward your points for the event. Points can only be fairly awarded if everyone in your division plays the round.
5. Champion is crowned based on best 4 Point totals in the division
6. If the result of the 4 best point totals leaves a tie for first place in the division, the tie breakers will happen as follows:
a. Number of First Place finishes
b. Number of wins versus each other in same events played
c. Number of Events played
d. If Number of Events played is the same, total overall points for all events
e. If a tie still exists, a putt off will determine the winner

[LegoRules]

Originally Posted by Flash

Here are the updated points before the Calapooia Classic:

2009 Oregon Series Points for Pro

2009 Oregon Series Points for Advanced Amateur

2009 Oregon Series Points for Amateur

If you have any questions or you notice mistakes please let me know. Please reserve the posting in this thread to direct question and answers. If you are wondering how the points are calculated or how the winners are determined feel free to ask.

How come FM1 has not been updated?

Cindy

[Flash]

Calculating Points for an Event:


Points are based on a maximum of 100 total points, with points descending from 100 based on play against the winner of the division. The points are not based on whole integer values and can be decimal values. There is no limitation on divisional sizes, like in a top down scoring fashion. Ties are severely reduced by allowing accuracy to 2 decimal places.

[Flash]

Here are the point updates to include the Calapooia Classic this past weekend in Albany:

2009 Pro Oregon Series Points

2009 Adv Oregon Series Points

2009 AM Oregon Series Points

[james_the_kid]

hey mike for rose city cory coats got 4 and i got 2 just to let you know it could change standings

[RonTheWhip]

i saw that too, but the points do not take into account the FINAL 9. so yes, you beat him, but oddly you get less points (after three rounds he was ahead). That is, assuming I know what I'm talking about.

[Flash]

Final 9's can not be taken into account due to the nature of the final 9. The points are based on the play of the people in your division so therefore it must be a round that everyone plays in.

I am thinking of changing that next year but this year only regular rounds are considered. Much like final 9 rounds are not rated neither are they counted in the overall points. I am not a fan of final 9's purely from the standpoint that they are so different from the regular rounds. Sure they allow a player to make a mad dash for the front but usually only on a modified layout from the layouts used in regular play. Sure you might be able to shred the final 9 layout but since others in your division might have also been able to shred it and gain place but were not included in the format due to space I choose not to include the scores in the points calculation.

James, I think the 2nd place finish is more enjoyable for you from a cashing standpoint though! Also your score should be reflective of the 3 rounds that you played.

This is also covered in the Rules in the second post.

[Sam]

Maybe a point for being in the final 9? 1 for 4th, 2 for 3rd, 3 for 2nd and 4 for 1st?

I don't know... I am just bored.

[Flash]

Originally Posted by Sam

Maybe a point for being in the final 9? 1 for 4th, 2 for 3rd, 3 for 2nd and 4 for 1st?

I don't know... I am just bored.

Its a good idea and I am accepting all ideas, I also thought to add the worst score in the final 9 to every player not playing in the final 9 to calculate the points out but that just seems unfair. The thing about adding in points to the mix is the winner then would achieve a score higher than 100 points so I am not sure I like that but I bet something could be worked out to make it slick.

I have dropped the 1 point for attending this year to maximize more of the Champion determination on the play not the signing up.

[snap7times]

I just hope this situation does not become a factor in end of series payout.... lets see...

[Flash]

Originally Posted by snap7times

I just hope this situation does not become a factor in end of series payout.... lets see...

What do you mean it was clearly stated before the points were announced so it clearly does not effect the points regardless.

[RonTheWhip]

is there payout this year?

[snap7times]

I just mean if one of them should've, could've, would've related to points based on different place scores from final 9's etc bsbs... and I was assuming there is a series payout no? I guess maybe Flash just doing the points out of his good nature?

[Flash]

Originally Posted by RonTheWhip

is there payout this year?

Payout from What?

Actually I have been in contact with the clubs to see if any of them are interested in supporting end of year awards and such. If you are interested and belong to a club in Oregon let them know how you feel. I don't think I could afford it out of my pocket.

[RonTheWhip]

Originally Posted by Flash

Payout from What?

Actually I have been in contact with the clubs to see if any of them are interested in supporting end of year awards and such. If you are interested and belong to a club in Oregon let them know how you feel. I don't think I could afford it out of my pocket.

I didn't expect there to be one, just thought I'd ask :]

[purediscgolf]

Originally Posted by RonTheWhip

I didn't expect there to be one, just thought I'd ask :]

I was just thinking that if everyone chipped in a bit maybe we could make an Oregon Series Payout this year.

What if we started to gather items from donors at the Eugene Celebration to be raffled off at the Willamette Open. We would have a month to accumulate enough discs and gear to make a pretty nice raffle. I will donate my time to produce a Series Champion Trophy for each major division (Pro, Masters, ADV, INT, Pro Women, AM Women).

It's just an idea. I know between all the local collectors and discaholics we could get everyone to kick down at least one disc and get a nice raffle together.

Cash raised from the raffle could be used as a Payout for the Pro field and utilized for planning the Oregon Series 2010.

What are your thoughts.....?

[Flash]

Originally Posted by purediscgolf

I was just thinking that if everyone chipped in a bit maybe we could make an Oregon Series Payout this year.

What if we started to gather items from donors at the Eugene Celebration to be raffled off at the Willamette Open. We would have a month to accumulate enough discs and gear to make a pretty nice raffle. I will donate my time to produce a Series Champion Trophy for each major division (Pro, Masters, ADV, INT, Pro Women, AM Women).

It's just an idea. I know between all the local collectors and discaholics we could get everyone to kick down at least one disc and get a nice raffle together.

Cash raised from the raffle could be used as a Payout for the Pro field and utilized for planning the Oregon Series 2010.

What are your thoughts.....?

Andrew, I am open to any and all ideas, I personally would like to see the series awards continue and the champions be crowned. I have no vested interest in the Oregon Series other than keeping the series points this year. It has been and will continue to be my goal of promoting the series winners and looking to the clubs that run the events in the series to take part ownership of the series going forward.

I am not so sure any money raised from the raffle should be used for payout this year, perhaps we just focus on either trophies or qualifier prizes and really aim for next year to re-institute the idea of a series final payout when the clubs can set appropriate fees to fund the series awards.

[all2common]

Mike, how exactly are you totaling the points? Is it .5 points per stroke or something similar to value in stroke count? Also, do you have time to roll out an update before the Willy O?

[Flash]

Originally Posted by all2common

Mike, how exactly are you totaling the points? Is it .5 points per stroke or something similar to value in stroke count? Also, do you have time to roll out an update before the Willy O?

The values of the strokes are calculated based on the max score and min score in each division and where your score falls within that range. The points are not the same at each event for each stroke because it varies greatly on the play of the division. However it is normalized such that the winner will always acheive 100 points and each person below them will be less than 100.

So this is the calculation: remember this is per division......[(max score)-(min score)]/your score = score factor
(your score factor)*100/(max Score Factor)= points

Thats why if you look at certain divisions in certain tournaments the scoring is very tight so the overall change between Max and Min score is a small value and therefore everyone has a point total of 90 or better, however other instances show a large range in the Max to Min score and the points total is spread out more down to a value in the seventies. I know it is not very easy to figure out what you need to score or place to finish in to win or get a certain overall placement but it does encourage you to fight for every stroke because it will effect your overall point total.

For instance if in a tournament you are in second place by 3 strokes and have 3 strokes on third place with two holes to go. It would be very easy to assume that you will not catch first place and you could just cruise into second place, but second place does not guarantee 99 points it depends on how well you shoot in comparison to the leader so instead of just playing real conservative the player may try to reel in some throws and it benefits them to do so, in the points assigned by placement there is no incentive to push any harder you can only get 99 points.

I am working on the update this week but work is getting in the way!