Northwest Disc Golf News Forums

Go Back   Northwest Disc Golf News Forums > Disc Golf Topics > Disc Golf
Register Site Rules FAQ Members List Arcade Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old August 10th, 2009, 08:58 AM
snap7times
Join Date:
September 4th, 2008
Posts:
2,683
Default Most Ridiculous prices for discs....

Last week on the way to Rocklin DGC down here in Rocklin *near sacramento*... I see the new gas station has a discraft sign out front. I pull in to see what they have just for kicks. The first disc I see on top is a Innova Star Destroyer and a Champ Valk next to it. They got like 4 different companies on 8 racks with a total of about 30-40 discs. I look at the prices on the destroyer and the valk and just about voiced outloud, 'OMFG are you serious'? I turn to the lady at the front and ask her if these prices are for real? She nods her head like "omg he just found a good deal", i was like, "lady, these discs sell for $12-$16, maybe as high as $18 if you really want to rip your customers off". She just got all firm on me "no, that is recomended price"... I laughed, "NO, this is not recomended price" looked through the rest of the discs and left... Some people really make me sick trying to rip people off.
So here are the prices.
Star Destroyer - $25.99
Champ Valk - $23.99
ESP Avenger - $18.99
X plastic*forgot which disc it was* - $13.99

Anyone else have a story like this?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old August 10th, 2009, 09:02 AM
Ol' Bob
Join Date:
August 28th, 2008
Location:
Club Mud
Posts:
4,296
Default

I guess the barrel of oil just went up again.
________________________________________________________________________
I digress.

The system's not broken...

...it's fixed!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old August 10th, 2009, 09:05 AM
Adam Schneider
Join Date:
August 27th, 2008
Location:
SE Portland
Posts:
3,013
Default

Wow. And I thought $18.99 for Star plastic at DeLaveaga was bad.
________________________________________________________________________
Oregon disc golf map
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old August 10th, 2009, 09:21 AM
Iowa
Join Date:
June 10th, 2009
Posts:
144
Default

Never go to Dick's Sporting goods. There prices are not nearly as bad as that. But DX cost 13 bucks. Champion is 18. And that is the only plastic they have. I went there and was very disappointed.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old August 10th, 2009, 09:31 AM
SMOKIN JOE
Join Date:
October 3rd, 2008
Location:
Teepad Twelve Wortman
Posts:
1,279
Default

yeah, most every tournament, I get plastic from the depot mark it up 2.00 for the club and still beat the price of discs at the big tournaments by 2.00 on discs, the last one was at star was 17.00 for script, champion 15.00, pro 12.00 , dx was 10.00 wow, I get dx for 5.00 , does that much money really need to be made off the players, what was the script prices for the classic this weekend, I've seen prices that are really high too. most of which paid what we do and then have to mark them up 50% to put on the shelf, and quick stop stores are always high on everything,
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old August 10th, 2009, 09:37 AM
Sam
Join Date:
August 25th, 2008
Posts:
5,709
Default

I got a first run Champion Groove for $15 and a Star Monarch (Kansas City Open fundraiser) for $17 from the Albany club last night. Good prices, I thought. I was so pleased with the tournament and the hard work the club put in to making it a great weekend, I joined.
________________________________________________________________________
Some people think that I say inappropriate things. I prefer to think of it as radical honesty.
~Unknown
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old August 10th, 2009, 09:50 AM
Scott
Join Date:
August 28th, 2008
Posts:
4,534
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by snap7times View Post
Last week on the way to Rocklin DGC down here in Rocklin *near sacramento*... I see the new gas station has a discraft sign out front. I pull in to see what they have just for kicks. The first disc I see on top is a Innova Star Destroyer and a Champ Valk next to it. They got like 4 different companies on 8 racks with a total of about 30-40 discs. I look at the prices on the destroyer and the valk and just about voiced outloud, 'OMFG are you serious'? I turn to the lady at the front and ask her if these prices are for real? She nods her head like "omg he just found a good deal", i was like, "lady, these discs sell for $12-$16, maybe as high as $18 if you really want to rip your customers off". She just got all firm on me "no, that is recomended price"... I laughed, "NO, this is not recomended price" looked through the rest of the discs and left... Some people really make me sick trying to rip people off.
So here are the prices.
Star Destroyer - $25.99
Champ Valk - $23.99
ESP Avenger - $18.99
X plastic*forgot which disc it was* - $13.99

Anyone else have a story like this?
I don't understand how anybody was "ripped off". How much of your money did she take? Was a gun used in this alleged robbery?

I have heard countless times that so and so is ripping people off because they charge too much. Guess what? We live in a free economy. Sellers are free to choose their price and buyers are free to choose where they want to shop. Another basic philosophy of our economy - Caveat Emptor (let the buyer beware). It is the buyer's responsibility to know what the fair price is for what he is buying, not the seller's.

Let's assume that your seller continues to sell Star plastic for $25.99. Here are the possible outcomes to that scenario:
- Shoppers buy discs at that price and the seller becomes successful and keeps prices at that level (or raises them). This proves that the market in that area is able to bear these prices.
- Shoppers find the price too high and refuse to buy discs from that seller (The market cannot bear the sellers prices). The seller is forced to lower his prices.
- Shoppers find the price too high and refuse to buy discs from that seller but the seller does not lower his prices. The seller eventually goes out of business.

Don't we have any Economics teachers on here? Somebody back me up, please.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:03 AM
Brian
Join Date:
February 4th, 2009
Location:
Pier Park and Dabney
Posts:
599
Default

I agree, the prices are too high, but I also agree with Scott that if anyone buys at that price then they are fine, if they do not buy at that price then they will have to lower it.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:05 AM
Adam Schneider
Join Date:
August 27th, 2008
Location:
SE Portland
Posts:
3,013
Default

Okay, sure, it's the free market at work. But for people who don't know any better, it's a rip-off.

Also, if someone goes in there having never played before, they're not going to think disc golf is as affordable as it really is.
________________________________________________________________________
Oregon disc golf map
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:07 AM
Brian
Join Date:
February 4th, 2009
Location:
Pier Park and Dabney
Posts:
599
Default

Then it might be better stated that they are giving a bad impression of the costliness of DG.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:09 AM
KenGilmore
Join Date:
August 30th, 2008
Location:
Beaverton, Oregon
Posts:
346
Default

Perhaps it is the person selling the discs that doesn't know any better.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:09 AM
Sam
Join Date:
August 25th, 2008
Posts:
5,709
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Schneider View Post
Okay, sure, it's the free market at work. But for people who don't know any better, it's a rip-off.
Negative. A rip off implies something shady or illegal. Anyone making a purchase without doing their research first deserves what they get.

Quote:
Also, if someone goes in there having never played before, they're not going to think disc golf is as affordable as it really is.
Again... research is key. Even at those prices, DG is WAY cheaper than ball golf.
________________________________________________________________________
Some people think that I say inappropriate things. I prefer to think of it as radical honesty.
~Unknown
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:11 AM
Brian
Join Date:
February 4th, 2009
Location:
Pier Park and Dabney
Posts:
599
Default

I don't know Innova's SRP, but could it be possible that it is like $25 for a star disc?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:17 AM
keys
Join Date:
October 31st, 2008
Posts:
210
Default

I'm sure the people at the gas station aren't trying to rip people off. They probably don't play disc golf and have no idea that most vendors don't sell near msrp. They are probably also adding a convenience percent on top of the msrp. When was the last time you found anything in a gas station cheep? They will find out their prices are too high when they see people browsing the discs, people laughing at the prices, and not purchasing the discs.
________________________________________________________________________
Current World Rank: 2857th
Lowest Rated Round: 777
Worst Tournament Finish: 2nd From DFL MA2 GNO 2008
Worst Drive: 10 Feet behind teepad
Shortest Putt Missed During a Tournament: < 1 foot (Not Kidding)
Best Fall: Hole 11 Trojan Park, before cement teepads
Dirtiest Ace: Hole 12 Horning's Canyon Course through the "V" tree.
Pairs of Shoes Ruined: 6
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:26 AM
Tim
Join Date:
August 28th, 2008
Location:
Seattle
Posts:
1,491
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam View Post
Negative. A rip off implies something shady or illegal. Anyone making a purchase without doing their research first deserves what they get.
Ironic, coming from an Innova fanboy.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:30 AM
Brian
Join Date:
February 4th, 2009
Location:
Pier Park and Dabney
Posts:
599
Default

Ouch, the gloves come off!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:33 AM
Sam
Join Date:
August 25th, 2008
Posts:
5,709
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim View Post
Ironic, coming from an Innova fanboy.
Except... I did my research and went with the superior disc manufacturer and left the wannabe discs for the wannabe disc golfers.
________________________________________________________________________
Some people think that I say inappropriate things. I prefer to think of it as radical honesty.
~Unknown
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:46 AM
LJ Jubner
Join Date:
September 10th, 2008
Posts:
1,539
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Schneider View Post
Okay, sure, it's the free market at work. But for people who don't know any better, it's a rip-off.
So What does it say when a retailer who knows the game and it's players still over charges for payout?

The good news is If I were pitching a course or getting crap about ..."How the the Tax payers are footing the bill", you would put these two together and then discuss the DG realities both as consumers (supporting the local economy) and park users (users and stewards).

So The conclusion here is this type of business model "gouging" is acceptable just not very ethical.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:50 AM
Tim
Join Date:
August 28th, 2008
Location:
Seattle
Posts:
1,491
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam View Post
Except... I did my research and went with the superior disc manufacturer and left the wannabe discs for the wannabe disc golfers.
Hmm, sounds like you're operating more on faith than the scientific method.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old August 10th, 2009, 10:51 AM
Sam
Join Date:
August 25th, 2008
Posts:
5,709
Default

Tim, I am moving my damned goat.
________________________________________________________________________
Some people think that I say inappropriate things. I prefer to think of it as radical honesty.
~Unknown
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.