Chick Flick Saturday Mixed Doubles? - Page 2 - Women's Disc Golf

Sam · #21 June 25th, 2009, 09:52 AM

Just so we're clear... the course will be closed during the clinics and women (playing without their men, even) who are not interested in participating in the clinics are supposed to... not even be at the course? Saturday was supposed to be a casual day, right?

I do not want to sully the Chick Flick thing either, Bob. And I wouldn't have posted again but you keep coming back to the "guys need to understand" which is more than a little silly considering I have stated that it was the women who wanted to do this and their men were being supportive of their ladies' desires on what was supposed to be their weekend. I am having a hard time understanding why that is being missed here, Bob. Should I try saying it a different way?

I understand both sides... but feel the heavy-handed nature of the responses - not to even mention trying to pin it on Patrick and I - was more than super lame. Seriously... the phone call from T-Bell would have been enough and I would have jumped to your guys' side without a moment's thought. I did that before I read Carie's post and really absorbed your post, Bob. But... telling people to not even bother showing up at the course if they want to play doubles will probably result in exactly that which will mean a lower turnout for the Chick Flick.

LegoRules · #22 June 25th, 2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Just so we're clear... the course will be closed during the clinics and women (playing without their men, even) who are not interested in participating in the clinics are supposed to... not even be at the course? Saturday was supposed to be a casual day, right?

I do not want to sully the Chick Flick thing either, Bob. And I wouldn't have posted again but you keep coming back to the "guys need to understand" which is more than a little silly considering I have stated that it was the women who wanted to do this and their men were being supportive of their ladies' desires on what was supposed to be their weekend. I am having a hard time understanding why that is being missed here, Bob. Should I try saying it a different way?

I understand both sides... but feel the heavy-handed nature of the responses - not to even mention trying to pin it on Patrick and I - was more than super lame. Seriously... the phone call from T-Bell would have been enough and I would have jumped to your guys' side without a moment's thought. I did that before I read Carie's post and really absorbed your post, Bob. But... telling people to not even bother showing up at the course if they want to play doubles will probably result in exactly that which will mean a lower turnout for the Chick Flick.

Please enough already this is getting way out of hand, and putting a negative spin on what is suppose to be a positive event. For those who do not want to take part in the clinics or help out with the clinics that is perfectly fine. The intention is to have a causal day for the LADIES to play together, and to learn together. However the canyon course will be closed for we may be using parts of it for the clinics, and later for the causal mixed division rounds. The Highland course will be open for casual play, and for those who choose not to take part in the clinics or casual mixed division round. The Canyon course will be available for play after the clinics, and casual round for the rest of the day. Really guys & gals lets try to work together to put on the most awesome disc golf weekend. There are a lot of people who are working really hard towards that goal, and this stuff is just really discouraging.

Cindy

"Over the Hill" Bob · #23 June 25th, 2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LegoRules

Please enough already this is getting way out of hand, and putting a negative spin on what is suppose to be a positive event. For those who do not want to take part in the clinics or help out with the clinics that is perfectly fine. The intention is to have a causal day for the LADIES to play together, and to learn together. However the canyon course will be closed for we may be using parts of it for the clinics, and later for the causal mixed division rounds. The Highland course will be open for casual play, and for those who choose not to take part in the clinics or casual mixed division round. The Canyon course will be available for play after the clinics, and casual round for the rest of the day. Really guys & gals lets try to work together to put on the most awesome disc golf weekend. There are a lot of people who are working really hard towards that goal, and this stuff is just really discouraging.

Cindy

Sam · #24 June 25th, 2009, 10:29 AM

The conversation is discouraging? I think you might want to evaluate what I said and wonder if the edicts were discouraging. I know of at least one lady (not Jamie) who is discouraged enough to withdraw her entry over the responses seen in this thread. I know that was not the goal of the committee's edicts so maybe a little introspection is called for here?

I'm done. I will be supporting my lady that weekend. If she wishes to play mixed doubles or attend the clinics or go to the beach or have a picnic or go for a hike, that is where I will be.

darrl · #25 June 25th, 2009, 11:18 AM

Well said Sam.

Minordiety · #26 June 25th, 2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by darrl

Well said Sam.

Your questions, concerns, and whatever else you might think of should be addressed to the Chick Flick Committee at thechickflick@gmail.com. They have the answers to the questions you want to ask.

And gentlemen, please feel free to PM me with your concerns, questions, and whatever else. But please note that I do run EVERYTHING through the Chick Flick Committee before I answer (since it is their event.)

Darrl (I'm sorry but I don't remember your name,) please contact the committee. They are an awesome group of women, who I'm sure you will enjoy disc golfing with.

John has left the building.

Steve McMahan · #27 June 25th, 2009, 10:10 PM

I'm really looking forward to this great event and can't wait to help out in every way possible. I'm behind you all the way ladies and my hat is off to all of you who have spent many hours of hard work to see this happen in the grandest of fashion

. I'll see you all there!

Sam · #28 June 26th, 2009, 10:35 AM

Yes... I am sure that Pat and I also feel the same way. Sad that this thread turned out as it did where Pat and I are looked at as the bad guys for supporting our ladies and their decisions. Maybe some of the guys who responded this way control their wives too much and don't imagine that they would make a decision like this on their own? I don't know... but the whole thing turned out pretty sad, in my opinion.

Minordiety · #29 June 26th, 2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Yes... I am sure that Pat and I also feel the same way. Sad that this thread turned out as it did where Pat and I are looked at as the bad guys for supporting our ladies and their decisions. Maybe some of the guys who responded this way control their wives too much and don't imagine that they would make a decision like this on their own? I don't know... but the whole thing turned out pretty sad, in my opinion.

Sam, just let the whole damn thing drop, will you. If your wife or any other woman has a concern or anything let THEM talk to the Chick Flick Committee and THEY can sort it out amongst themselves. They don't need you, me, or anyother male involved in this any further!

And if they do not choose to work this out amongst themselves then it is not OUR problem.

Now go get ready for the Bad Monkey tomorrow.

Sam · #30 June 26th, 2009, 11:11 AM

Actually, no John. I think that Pat and I were unfairly maligned in this thread and we did nothing more than try to show our support for our wives. If this is really about the ladies and not about a small group of ladies trying to control every aspect of the weekend, I would think our wives would count in that and should have had their desires respected a little more rather than they were treated. And this shouldn't have been painted as if Pat and I were trying to inject our desires into it as that was definitely not the case.

Simply put, there was at least one woman who was not really interested in getting better but was planning to attend this event to take part in her husband's passion and spend some time with him. She doesn't want to learn how to throw forehands or get better at putting. And seeing as how Saturday was set up as a casual day, she didn't think that anyone would mind if a couple of couples went off and did their own thing at the time the clinics were running. At this point, she is probably not going to bother showing up because it seems like the CF committee decided to come down a little heavy-handedly with their edict about the course being closed and those not wanting to participate in the clinics should not bother to show up. In other words, the committee's efforts to increase attendance will backfire in this case and will cost them an entry fee, probably. She will probably also never wish to participate in another CF event, as well. If that is no big deal and we should just stop talking about it because it is not the feel-good story people want to hear, fine. I don't think that that is the case, though, and think that the committee should rethink their approach.

Lastly, this is not the Chick Flick thread so I don't see how us discussing this should be a problem for anyone. Don't like what those of us who are disappointed have to say? Don't read the thread. Seems simple, really.

darrl · #31 June 26th, 2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Actually, no John. I think that Pat and I were unfairly maligned in this thread and we did nothing more than try to show our support for our wives. If this is really about the ladies and not about a small group of ladies trying to control every aspect of the weekend, I would think our wives would count in that and should have had their desires respected a little more rather than they were treated. And this shouldn't have been painted as if Pat and I were trying to inject our desires into it as that was definitely not the case.

Simply put, there was at least one woman who was not really interested in getting better but was planning to attend this event to take part in her husband's passion and spend some time with him. She doesn't want to learn how to throw forehands or get better at putting. And seeing as how Saturday was set up as a casual day, she didn't think that anyone would mind if a couple of couples went off and did their own thing at the time the clinics were running. At this point, she is probably not going to bother showing up because it seems like the CF committee decided to come down a little heavy-handedly with their edict about the course being closed and those not wanting to participate in the clinics should not bother to show up. In other words, the committee's efforts to increase attendance will backfire in this case and will cost them an entry fee, probably. She will probably also never wish to participate in another CF event, as well. If that is no big deal and we should just stop talking about it because it is not the feel-good story people want to hear, fine. I don't think that that is the case, though, and think that the committee should rethink their approach.

Lastly, this is not the Chick Flick thread so I don't see how us discussing this should be a problem for anyone. Don't like what those of us who are disappointed have to say? Don't read the thread. Seems simple, really.

Since I feel responsible for this thread I just wanted to clear a few things up. It was me (Lesley) not my husband Pat that made the post, it was also me that wanted to play mixed doubles. I did not think that I needed to email anyone special and ask permission because I just wanted to play a casual round with some friends. I was not trying to set up some seperate event. It is not as if I am trying to take away anything from this event. When it first began I was so excited at the fact that there was an event for women where we could share in something that is so important to our significant others. I just feel that the perspecive of this weekend is being lost. I am coming to meet new people and play for fun. I am not really interested in improving my form. I know that the clinics are a valuable part of the weekend for people that are interested. I had no idea that starting my first thread on these boards looking for other couples wanting to play a "casual" round on the "casual" day would cause such an uproar. I do value the amount of work that has gone into such a great weekend, but come on this has become crazy. I am planning on attending the event, playing in the tournament and playing a casual round with friends on saturday I see no reason for anyone to be upset about that. If you want more women involved in disc golf make them feel welcome instead of feeling like they did something wrong.

Celeste · #32 June 26th, 2009, 12:54 PM

Wow! Just checked back in here. Not that surprised, but wow!
Darrl- I hope you don't feel like any of the women are in any way upset with you or upset that the idea was thrown out there in the first place. Things tend to get blown way out of proportion here. I too really enjoy mixed doubles and can't wait to play the next event.
See you all at the Chick Flick! Hope everyone has fun, even if exactly what you are looking for isn't offered on this weekend.

Pizzel · #33 June 26th, 2009, 02:49 PM

Looks like another case of an idea and thread being "Samrolled".

Darr · #34 June 26th, 2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pizzel

Looks like another case of an idea and thread being "Samrolled".

I think it's more of a case of being "ChickFlickBODrolled"
Honestly, if men were meant to be "outlawed" from casual day that should have been advertised in the flyer. I know most of you ladies take disc golf VERY seriously, that's not the case at all with my wife. If she's not interested in the clinics, that shouldn't be taken as a slight to the work going into them.

A few mixed couples on the hillside course (not playing for money) during the afternoon aren't going to ruin the event, and I think it's funny what a big deal has been made of this. I do apologize for this TERRIBLE TRAVESTY!!!

Sam · #35 June 26th, 2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pizzel

Looks like another case of an idea and thread being "Samrolled".

More passive-aggressive crap from Pinkal. YAY!

Celeste · #36 June 26th, 2009, 04:45 PM

Good lord fellas. Can this be over with already? I know how people like to draw this crap out but we get it. I know this will be twisted into me trying to control people and freedom of speech and all. I just think that everyone's side has been explained. This kind of stuff is a huge reason I make sure to never direct a new player to these boards for info. Too bad, cause there is a lot of good info here you just have to wade through so much negativity.
Be sure to put this on the list for the airing of grievences at Festivus.
Last word from me on the subject.

LegoRules · #37 June 26th, 2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Darr

A few mixed couples on the hillside course (not playing for money) during the afternoon aren't going to ruin the event, and I think it's funny what a big deal has been made of this. I do apologize for this TERRIBLE TRAVESTY!!!

Darr I have bumped my post from earlier in this thread because I think you may have missed it. I look forward to seeing you and Lesley in August.

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Originally Posted by LegoRules

Please enough already this is getting way out of hand, and putting a negative spin on what is suppose to be a positive event. For those who do not want to take part in the clinics or help out with the clinics that is perfectly fine. The intention is to have a causal day for the LADIES to play together, and to learn together. However the canyon course will be closed for we may be using parts of it for the clinics, and later for the causal mixed division rounds. The Highland course will be open for casual play, and for those who choose not to take part in the clinics or casual mixed division round. The Canyon course will be available for play after the clinics, and casual round for the rest of the day. Really guys & gals lets try to work together to put on the most awesome disc golf weekend. There are a lot of people who are working really hard towards that goal, and this stuff is just really discouraging.

Cindy

Sam · #38 June 26th, 2009, 07:12 PM

Cindy, it might have had something to do with the mixed message received from you and Carie and Bob. Carie's and Bob's posts indicated that those who were interested in a casual round during clinics would not be welcome at the course as it was closed. Your post seemed to contradict that which is why I asked for clarification that was never given. I appreciate you bumping it and bolding the parts that are applicable to the conversation.

Say... I would really like to be done with this conversation. If no one wants to respond to the thread just to tell us how the guys need to understand this, that or some other thing that is not relevant to the subject being discussed or how I am "samrolling" this thread, I believe it can be left alone to die. That would be swell.