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Old June 20th, 2009, 03:34 PM
"Over the Hill" Bob
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You know... your paycheck is probably only good for 180 days. I know mine are. Should I get pissed at my employer for this, Jub, or should we realize that putting an expiration on these things is probably in the business' best interests?
Not to mention the club! It's nice to close the books on an event 30 days after it's over.

Bob
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Old June 21st, 2009, 07:48 AM
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You know... your paycheck is probably only good for 180 days. I know mine are. Should I get pissed at my employer for this, Jub, or should we realize that putting an expiration on these things is probably in the business' best interests?
Paycheck vs scrip Sam Correct me if I am wrong but

Most employers don't charge an entry fee to show up for work! My check is good at any of employers or my bank nation wide not just one location. I can guarantee that the open players have cashed there checks.

Scrip Expiration dates like event dates, sign up dates, late fee dates etc should all be posted on the flyer Not as a side note after the awards and certainly not online 3 weeks later.

Bob, Yes it is good to close the books after an event but not at the AM players expense. By NOT having your major (only) scrip redemption vendor ONSITE at the event (again not some where else I have to go to get my winnings) also seem to be at the Am's expense. I guess the good news is if the club has not paid NA for all the scrip issued at BSF at least you don't have to wait for the refund check from them.

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Exclusive scrip NA WIN, Club WIN, Players ?
No onsite redemption NA WIN, Club ?, Playes LOSS!
Getting people into store NA WIN, Club ? , Players LOSS!
Experation date NA WIN, Club WIN, Players LOSS

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Old June 21st, 2009, 10:54 AM
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Scrip Expiration dates like event dates, sign up dates, late fee dates etc should all be posted on the flyer Not as a side note after the awards and certainly not online 3 weeks later.

Bob, Yes it is good to close the books after an event but not at the AM players expense. By NOT having your major (only) scrip redemption vendor ONSITE at the event (again not some where else I have to go to get my winnings) also seem to be at the Am's expense. I guess the good news is if the club has not paid NA for all the scrip issued at BSF at least you don't have to wait for the refund check from them.

Additional thoughts
Exclusive scrip NA WIN, Club WIN, Players ?
No onsite redemption NA WIN, Club ?, Playes LOSS!
Getting people into store NA WIN, Club ? , Players LOSS!
Experation date NA WIN, Club WIN, Players LOSS

Exclusive scrip NA WIN, Club WIN, Players ?

Yes, NA wins, yes, club wins, Players? Might be less convenient, but, you do have an opportunity to get so much more for your scrip. Disc's, shoes, snowboard, already discounted items in store, ect ect.

No onsite redemption NA WIN, Club ?, Playes LOSS!

No onsite redemption? At the BSF, Huk Lab redeemed, Mando's redeemed, Sweet Plastic redeemed, and had Brody not broken his leg, Disc Golf Depot was going to redeem. NA (huge sponsor) Lose, Club win, Players WIN big time.

Getting people into store NA WIN, Club ? , Players LOSS!

Getting people into store is for sure a win for NA. As for the Club? Yes, we win too, we have a strong sponsor. Players? How do they lose by getting to redeem their scrip on supplies for their next disc golf camping trip? Maybe less convenient but again, for most area players NA is pretty centrally located.

Experation date NA WIN, Club WIN, Players LOSS

Yep, it helps NA, helps the club, but how do the players LOSE? By not being able to save scrip for a year or longer to buy higher ticket items? As an AM player, I am excited to see a business and club that are sponsoring events for my pleasure. If I can help out by being responsible and redeeming my scrip in a timely manner, then I am more than happy do that.

Remember Jub, that only about 4 months ago we as players and as a club, (Stumptown) found out that the original ORS staff was not doing the series this year. We have been left to figure it out and make sure the events are still run. We are not a perfect machine but we are trying. We don't have 5-6 years experience under our belt, nor do we have the physical inventory that is the result of years of doing it. I wish Stumptown could shell out several thousand dollars to buy an inventory of discs to have available but the reality is that we don't. I fully understand your concern for the AM players. I too am an AM and will as long as I play. (for me that's not as long as others) While many are still concerned for taking care of the PRO players, I personally am committed to making sure the AM's are taken care of as well.

Give me a call anytime Jub and we can discuss this or any other issue in more detail. I have an open mind and I want to make things better and am willing to listen to any logical ideas that will in fact make things better. Working together we can all have an impact on the sport and help in its growth.

Bob
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 10:12 PM
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If anyone has scrip that is expiring there are ways to "renew" the scrip if you have extenuating circumstances. PM me or go talk to someone at Next Adventure if this applies to you.
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