World Championships?

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["Over the Hill" Bob]

Originally Posted by Tim

That's going on the assumption that we'll all still be around in 2013.

Tim, was that a shot at me?

Bob

[Ol' Bob]

Originally Posted by "Over the Hill" Bob

Tim, was that a shot at me?

Bob

I think that was a reference to Dismember 21st, 2012. I just saw a program on the History Channel and they said Nasty-Damn-Us sez we're all toast if we don't do right.

[Scott]

[quote="Over the Hill" Bob;19181]Tim, was that a shot at me?

Bob[/QUOTE]

No, it is a reference to the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Doomsday_Prediction"]Mayan calendar[/url], which allegedly ends in December, 2012.

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Originally Posted by Scott

No, it is a reference to the Mayan calendar, which allegedly ends in December, 2012.

I worry about being around in 2010. First thing I do in the morning everyday is check the obituary in the paper. If I'm not listed, then I go ahead with my day.

Oh yeah, when I win the lottery this week, we'll have the money for Worlds.

Bob

[Bob Horning]

Originally Posted by bvdisc

There are strict rules on what baskets can be used in PDGA tournament. I haven't played on the hornings baskets but from what I've heard I don't think they can be used on B tier or above. Maybe it's just A tier and above.

But if worlds were coming I'm sure finding baskets wouldn't be an issue.

Baskets used in any sactioned tournament above C has to be certified by the PDGA. When I comes tikme to make bakets for the new course they will have the same design as the Highland, short throw course, with the extra chains (better catching). I will be making an extra basket and sending it to PDGA to be certified (they keep it), since they are built to PDGA specs. Which brings up another subject, we need to call them something. INNOVA has such names as Mach 1, etc... What's some ideas out there for names? (be nice)

[Adam Schneider]

BH Truck Gongs.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Bob Horning

Which brings up another subject, we need to call them something. INNOVA has such names as Mach 1, etc... What's some ideas out there for names?

"#$%&!"

[Chuck Kennedy]

I will be making an extra basket and sending it to PDGA to be certified (they keep it), since they are built to PDGA specs.

Make sure to download and check out the new specs effective Feb 1, 2009 when you create these baskets.

http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/PDGATechStandards_09.pdf

[Bob Horning]

Originally Posted by Chuck Kennedy

Make sure to download and check out the new specs effective Feb 1, 2009 when you create these baskets.

http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/PDGATechStandards_09.pdf

No worries

[gwillim]

I like something with "gong" in it. The Canyon course baskets can be Horning Gong I, and the Highlands can be the Gong II or something?

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Bob Horning

INNOVA has such names as Mach 1, etc... What's some ideas out there for names? (be nice)

How about: The Canyonero


Oh, wait. Simpsons already took it.

It's funnier in German.

[Getty]

Originally Posted by Bob Horning

Which brings up another subject, we need to call them something. INNOVA has such names as Mach 1, etc... What's some ideas out there for names? (be nice)

Chain Bang Incident

[Greg_R]

Raising money for a combined worlds is not a huge difficulty... every disc golf brand basically breaks down the door trying to throw product and cash your way. Oregon Sports Authority has a large amount of money as well (should they elect to grant us some funds).

Sadly, the baskets at Hornings would be very poorly received simply because they are different (however, getting 18 or 36 other borrowed baskets in there for two weeks would be easy).

We need to ask ourselves if we want to run a so-so worlds or the best worlds ever. Courses like Hornings (haven't seen the gold yet), Pier, Dabney, etc. may be OK but do not have the difficulty level (skill, not luck) that make a premiere worlds course. Milo E/W @ BSF preparation levels are the only premiere pro-worlds caliber courses that I've seen so far in Oregon (whistler's bend in the longs may be the other). It is important to have good scoring separation on every hole and a wide mix of shot variety (short, long, left, right, straight, etc.). In order to ensure a good scoring separation you need to run multiple tournaments with a large group of pro players and make adjustments to holes that are too easy, too consistent (everyone hit pars) or too hard / luck prone. It takes multiple tournaments to dial a course in. You also need space for spectators to park and watch the players.

Also keep in mind that the courses need to be fairly close to each other and that a large, centrally located host hotel / venue is needed. Hornings certainly has the space but what about the hotel facilities (not everyone will want to camp)?

[larsonjeff]

I've played in 2 Am Worlds:
1. Flagstaff, AZ. The courses were decent but not outstanding. One of the courses was up on the Mtn and required about a 40min drive, so a bit of a drive might be OK.

2. Milwaukee, WI. The courses here were not great, and many were pretty disappointed with them because they could be played with a mid-range disc on most holes. I know our courses here (Milo, Pier and even perhaps Dabney/Timber) would hold up compared to them.

Just some comments...

[smobro]

Originally Posted by Bob Horning

Baskets used in any sactioned tournament above C has to be certified by the PDGA. When I comes tikme to make bakets for the new course they will have the same design as the Highland, short throw course, with the extra chains (better catching). I will be making an extra basket and sending it to PDGA to be certified (they keep it), since they are built to PDGA specs. Which brings up another subject, we need to call them something. INNOVA has such names as Mach 1, etc... What's some ideas out there for names? (be nice)

The chains are not really the issue. the wheel is likely the sticky wicket. The inside of the wheel is so slick that a well delivered nose down putt can very easily scoop out. I don't notice chain outs as much on the Highland course due to the multiple chains. but scoop outs do happen with seemingly more regularity than the popular basket brands on some of our other great courses. However, if the PDGA will give approval, then I am looking forward to putting the baskets at HH in Worlds!

[Matt B.]

Originally Posted by smobro

The chains are not really the issue. the wheel is likely the sticky wicket. The inside of the wheel is so slick that a well delivered nose down putt can very easily scoop out. I don't notice chain outs as much on the Highland course due to the multiple chains. but scoop outs do happen with seemingly more regularity than the popular basket brands on some of our other great courses. However, if the PDGA will give approval, then I am looking forward to putting the baskets at HH in Worlds!

Respectfully, I'd like to encourage Bob to use standard baskets for the "gold" course. Especially if Worlds is a consideration. I totally understand budgetary restrictions, but if you're using all that land and trying to create a "Worlds" class course that will be there for years getting thousands of rounds of play, that people will love, and that could become the focus for big, awesome tournaments with camping, fishing, (music?) and potentially a Worlds bid, do you really want homemade baskets, even if they get PDGA approval?

Fundraiser, anyone?

[Bob Horning]

For now, I have budgeted for the home made baskets and I have looked at the new certification requirements, and they are not that hard to meet. I will have to go to a smaller top ring (I can get those), but that is basically it. With the smaller ring I can also hang the chains even lower in the basket, thus keeping the discs from spitting out at all (smobro's comment). After I make the baskets for the new course I will go back and re-do the canyon course (the short course will remain as is, no changes) In the future when more funds are coming in we will look at different baskets for the new course, but for right now we're going with the modified home made that will be certified.

[JMan]

I love them Bob, and when the pdga cert. comes in it will be a mute point.
J

[Adam Schneider]

I think "normal" baskets at HH would be a shame. It'd be like replacing the peacocks with chickens.