Discs for the wife. - DG Equipment

grant · #1 May 12th, 2009, 01:15 PM

Just wondering what discs all the ladies are hukin. My wife has a 180 DX Stingray and a 175 Aviar P&A. She has 150-175 ft. distance and decent technique. I had her try a 175 sidewinder but it is to heavy and all my other discs are to overstable. Is 150 class the route to go here and should I stay away from the primo plastic and stick with dx,elite x, pro d? thanks.

Adam Schneider · #2 May 12th, 2009, 01:24 PM

Male or female, the same advice applies to all beginners: stay away from heavy drivers and "distance drivers" -- i.e., anything above 7 on Innova's "speed" rating. Fairway drivers are better for now. (I don't think the type of plastic really matters.)

If she wants something more aerodynamic and/or stable than the Stingray, pick up a 150g-160g Leopard and see how that goes. If she starts flipping the Leopard, move up to an Eagle or Teebird, both of which come in light weights. (But a lightweight Leopard is still a useful disc to have, even after you become a more advanced player.)

By the way, there are very few people who really should be throwing max-weight drivers. Most disc golfers will get much better results with drivers below 170g.

LegoRules · #3 May 12th, 2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by grant

Just wondering what discs all the ladies are hukin. My wife has a 180 DX Stingray and a 175 Aviar P&A. She has 150-175 ft. distance and decent technique. I had her try a 175 sidewinder but it is to heavy and all my other discs are to overstable. Is 150 class the route to go here and should I stay away from the primo plastic and stick with dx,elite x, pro d? thanks.

I throw 150 to 160ish for drivers, and mostly champion and star plastic. I throw Valks, Roadrunners, Sidewinders, (backhand) T-birds, and TLs (Forehand). I am hucking them about 175 to 200. I also have a Beast in my bag that I am currently trying out. I have a 169 Star Cro midrange, and max weight putters.

Cindy

PS The ladies get together every month to play rounds together without the boys, and this coming sunday happens to be this months chickflick. We are meeting at Milo 1W at 11am to play the 27 on Sunday. We would love for your wife to join us.

Mystjava · #4 May 12th, 2009, 01:26 PM

I would recommend that you go ahead and have her try a few that are in the 150's to 165's. She might be surprised about how far she can go with them. She might have better control of them. Personally I would recommend trying a few before you buy them to see how comfortable they are - in terms of grip, release, and weight. It will take a few before you find that she's comfortable with a certain weight and performs well with them. (Go over to Disc Golf Depot and ask Valerie)...

grant · #5 May 12th, 2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Schneider

Male or female, the same advice applies to all beginners: stay away from heavy drivers and "distance drivers" -- i.e., anything above 7 on Innova's "speed" rating. Fairway drivers are better for now. (I don't think the type of plastic really matters.)

If she wants something more aerodynamic and/or stable than the Stingray, pick up a 150g-160g Leopard and see how that goes. If she starts flipping the Leopard, move up to an Eagle or Teebird, both of which come in light weights.

By the way, there are very few people who really should be throwing max-weight drivers. Most disc golfers will get much better results with drivers below 170g.

Thanks Adam, good advice on the max weight drivers. When I first started I was getting the wide rimmed discs when I had no business throwing them but I have come to find out that I am not that gifted to throw those max weight beasts and now throw fairway drivers exclusively on drives. Now I have all these destroyers that are "practice field only" discs. Live and learn. I just wish the disc manufacturing companies would throw the non cannon arms a bone and make some discs under speed 10-13 besides putters.

Ol' Bob · #6 May 12th, 2009, 01:49 PM

Being old and feeble, I get outdriven by quite a few women. I like 150 DX drivers, Wraiths, Destroyers, and such. I flip the Valks now. When I say, "DX," I mean worked in DX. The new ones are usually overstable for a while. Different people have different arm speeds and different spin speeds. I think that's why what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another. Then there're different grips. It becomes hard to say what will be in any one person's wheelhouse. Damn, you're just going to have to play more disc golf to figger this out!

grant · #7 May 12th, 2009, 01:51 PM

Damn, you're just going to have to play more disc golf to figger this out!

And that really is the answer I would like to hear the most.

keys · #8 May 12th, 2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by grant

I just wish the disc manufacturing companies would throw the non cannon arms a bone and make some discs under speed 10-13 besides putters.

They do! Many of the best discs are between putters and Max D drivers. Here is the selection from Innova.

http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/index.html

Adam Schneider · #9 May 12th, 2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by keys

They do! Many of the best discs are between putters and Max D drivers. Here is the selection from Innova.

Maybe he meant NEW discs.

grant · #10 May 12th, 2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Schneider

Maybe he meant NEW discs.

You are correct sir. But that little chart from Innova is nice to know about so thanks Keys.

keys · #11 May 12th, 2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Schneider

Maybe he meant NEW discs.

Yeah you're probably right. Speed 6-9 on the Innova side hasn't seen a new mold in a while. I'm not sure Innova needs any new molds in that range, as it seems to be pretty dialed.

Ol' Bob · #12 May 12th, 2009, 02:18 PM

Most all the new drivers are trolling gear. If we didn't bite...

Scott · #13 May 12th, 2009, 02:21 PM

Innova must not beleive that they can sell as many new 6-9 speed disks. Midrange? What's so sexy about that? But putting and distance - that's someone that everyone wants (and will rush to the store for).

Sam · #14 May 12th, 2009, 02:54 PM

Do you putt with a Kite? A Coyote? Both are new discs from within the past 5 years, I believe. Both have speeds under 8.

Personally, I am pissed that Innova hasn't fixed world hunger or the spread of the swine flu...

Sam · #15 May 12th, 2009, 02:56 PM

Back off of the topic of how bad Innova is...

I would strongly suggest a lighter Leopard, a lighter Valkyrie, a lighter Sidewinder, a lighter TeeBird, a lighter Roc or Coyote (a lot of girls love 'em for some reason) and a heavier putter such as an Aviar-X. Then go to the field and throw them all over and over and over again.

Adam Schneider · #16 May 12th, 2009, 03:11 PM

Another one to think about, from the non-Innova world: the Discraft Impact is a pretty decent fairway driver, and it comes in 150g.

Scott · #17 May 12th, 2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Do you putt with a Kite? A Coyote? Both are new discs from within the past 5 years, I believe. Both have speeds under 8.

Personally, I am pissed that Innova hasn't fixed world hunger or the spread of the swine flu...

Take it easy. I'm not bashing anyone. I was just making an observation. Surely you will concede that, in the last five years, Innova has released more distance drivers than any other types of disc. Five years ago Innova didn't even have a disc faster than a 10. What are they up to now? 13?

Personally, I don't care. I'm trying to throw fewer molds, not more.

grant · #18 May 12th, 2009, 03:17 PM

Wow guys and gals me and the wife had no idea this thread would be this popular. We will probably have to head down to the old disc store to have a look at some new discs. There are some good options that have been said and we look forward to trying them out. Plus it helps fuel the argument that going and playing DG is SO much more exciting than yardwork. Thanks and keep it coming.

Grant

Sam · #19 May 12th, 2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott

Surely you will concede that, in the last five years, Innova has released more distance drivers than any other types of disc. Five years ago Innova didn't even have a disc faster than a 10. What are they up to now? 13?

Two thoughts on that:

1) The technology is advancing pretty quickly and they keep producing new ways to make discs fly faster. I am glad that they are sharing and not keeping this technology to themselves. Discraft has to have someone to follow, after all.
2) Marketing results probably show that - yes, you are right - there is a lot more hype in a faster driver than there is in another speed 5-7 midrange.

And you are correct. Innova probably does think that they will sell more of the drivers and putters than they will mid-ranges. And I bet they think this because the market has proven it correct. Can you blame them for producing what the people are buying?

Tim · #20 May 12th, 2009, 03:36 PM

I think that's kind of putting the cart in front of the horse. I wouldn't say Innova is any more guilty than Discraft...or any other company really. But I think it is kind of regrettable that the way the discs are marketed, people end up throwing stuff that they really have no business throwing. Sure, a Destroyer might fly longer than any of your other discs, but if you don't have the power/technique to throw it properly, you'll only be teaching yourself bad habits and limiting your potential.