Originally Posted by Sam
Agreed. It was dumb to post it. Now it will be easier to clean up the mess that most see this as.
Oh... and you seem pretty zealous in wishing to grant the Hagg folks the right to deface a tree, Bob. What's that all about?
Go back and read all of my posts. Pennies stuck up with tree sap won't be there all that long, and the pennies will be but pennies again. Where is the concern for the vine maples near death or gone from disc strikes at Pier Park and other places. I see that the vine maples and cascaras here at Mud that are in the way have lost chunks of bark, and have I have to accept that as a trade-off to have the course. There are many more cascaras, and unlike the vine maples, are not shade tolerant anyway, and so, die off in the woods.
I believe the trade-offs involved in disc golf are good and worth it because they get people into the woods to do something besides cut them down for some rich asshole. We share this earth in common. Those pennies took nothing from me. Certainly they won't kill a tree like disc strikes surely can. It's just that some of us don't like it with a religious enthusiasm. I feel that way about cigarette butts and wish those who toss them on my course would tell me how many butts they saw here before they tossed their own. The pennies aren't garbage and the application is, in my opinion, a respectful one, where the butts are garbage of a most unclean kind.
I'm sad that I can't seem to bring anyone around to my viewpoint, which is one that's long thought out, and I believe well considered. I think I've made plenty of good points in an argument that I believe should not even be one. Such a small passing impact, when compared to this sport we love, which is far and away, superior to say, going into the woods with rifles to collect trophies and meat at such cost.
Our species leaves far too big a footprint on our planet, not from our being here, nor even our inventiveness. The problem is in our motivations and our incomplete knowledge. "Because I say so" is not sufficient for any respectable limitations, and all of us should always balk at that. We should try to fathom the issues to the roots and get us a solution that will allow us to stay here and enjoy what we have in understanding. Ignorance just don't serve.