Trim the Bag or Fill it?

[sk8architecture]

I was reading player profiles on Innova, Gateway, and Discraft and noticed the bag of all the Pros were pretty minimal. They all carry maybe only 3-5 different types of discs but usally 2 of each mold. Alot of players at my level seem to carry a bunch of diiferent molds. For example I have both a Surge and a wraith in my bag but both are very similar in flight.

So what do you prefer.......is it better to go with the Wasp for hyzer shots, Roc for straight shots, Zglide for turn over shots.........or New Roc for hyzer shots, Roc for Straight shots, beat up Roc for turn over shots????

I love plastic so its hard to discrminate between the Surge and the Wraith or other random combo's in my bag. Any other threads or articles on this topic would be interesting too. Thanks.

[snap7times]

Go to an open field, throw every disc in your bag at least 6-10 times to get a feel of which disc will do what and which one you would throw more often if you had 3 of that kind but in different "beat/age"... I used to wrestle between a surge and a wraith and the wraith won because I could do, beat to shit awesome turn, straight as an arrow 12x, and strong left *replaced strong left with teerex*.... It takes years and years of practice to reduce the discs used and to find those that fit your game...

[mine all mine]

I think you should throw what fits you best. I personally love the Buzz. I have three in my bag, 1 new for long hyzer shots, 1 slightly used for straight to slight hyzer at the end shots and 1 old for long turnover shots. I could use different discs that do these things straight out of the box, but I feel I can control a Buzz better than any other midrange. Same thing with Drivers and Putters. I throw what I have confidence in.

[TYVEK]

howdy,


personally i would say to find the discs that you can absolutely depend on and just have those in your bag. there is no need to be carrying around 10 different molds ALL of the time. i think thats its fine to have the wraith/surge just to compare which disc is going to be work for you the best, but they are so very similar that you dont need to always carry both of them.

when you are out there throwing all your different discs, start to evaluate each one as you throw it and find the model of disc that is TOTALLY dependable for you. each person has a bit of different opinion on which disc is better. but what really matters is which disc works for you the best. personally i switched from carrying 3 ROC'S to now carrying a Z wasp and a BUZZZ. i have had the wasp for almost a year now and it is my primary midrange and it still flies just like a brand new rock!


if a Roc is easier to control for you, then just carry around a couple rocks at different stages of being beat in. one stable, and one understable.
the less molds you have in your bag, the easier it will be for you to really know exactly what each of your discs are going to do for any given situation.

hope this helps you out. keep throwing and practicing!!!

[Scott]

Originally Posted by sk8architecture

I was reading player profiles on Innova, Gateway, and Discraft and noticed the bag of all the Pros were pretty minimal. They all carry maybe only 3-5 different types of discs but usally 2 of each mold. Alot of players at my level seem to carry a bunch of diiferent molds. For example I have both a Surge and a wraith in my bag but both are very similar in flight.

So what do you prefer.......is it better to go with the Wasp for hyzer shots, Roc for straight shots, Zglide for turn over shots.........or New Roc for hyzer shots, Roc for Straight shots, beat up Roc for turn over shots????

I love plastic so its hard to discrminate between the Surge and the Wraith or other random combo's in my bag. Any other threads or articles on this topic would be interesting too. Thanks.

I'm hardly a pro player, but I've definately seen the need to simplify.
I just stripped my bag down to the following:
Pro Destroyer
Pro Destroyer (backup)
CE Firebird (very beat, very straight)
Pro Orc
Pro Teebird
10x KC Pro Gazelle
Pro Pig
DX Roc
KC Pro Roc
JK Aviar
JK Aviar

That's 11 discs (and two are strictly backups), down from about twenty. I just tried it out with a couple of rounds at Pier and LOVED it. The big difference is that, for probably the first time ever, I actually used every disc in my bag (minus the backups). Having a limited selection really helped remove some of the guess work that goes into disc selection.

[Adam Schneider]

I guess it depends on your goal. If you want to move up the rankings and win tournaments, you should probably do like the pros do. I personally think it's a lot more fun to try out new stuff and carry as many discs as my bag will hold.

[Joshua Olmsted]

I've been very happy with my pared down bag, as an amateur player I switched through many discs trying things often, but eventually settled on 6 molds that make up my arsenal and I haven't changed in the last year and a half. I do enjoy having my molds in a variety of weights and plastics, it allows me to get lots of shots while keeping the same grips, now when I throw I don't have to think about what disc to use, because I'm so familiar with all of them. I found this especially true in the putter and mid-range game, before I had different putters for different shots and was inconsistent with all of them.

My bag
4 X avengers (163-168)
2 ESP Pulses 173
3 Z XLs all 172 in different stages of beatness
2 Z Extremes 174
2 Z Buzzes 175
2 ESP supercolor Buzzes 175
3 D soft magnets 175

Go Discraft

[RonTheWhip]

I think paring down my bag has been one of the greater benefits to swtiching to Dcraft. In my initial attempts of trying everything I found a lot of solid molds, I've settled into a good rotation right now and have less than 20 discs on me during tourneys. In years past of carried around 25 in the bag at all times...yikes.

ESP Force (2)
ESP Pulse
ESP Surge
Z Surge
FLX Avenger
Z Avenger
Z Predator
ESP Predator
Sparkle Rogue
ESP Meteor
ESP Buzzz
ESP Buzzz
ESP Zone
Z Xtreme
D Challenger
Soft Magnet

17 discs. 12 molds. Each disc sees lots of action

[sk8architecture]

Thanks for all the input. For the past 6 months I have actual focused on pure practice in fields and such and have noticed a huge difference in disc selection. As stated above Surge or Wraith I like them both but for personal benfit and consistancy I need to chose one and let the other go. There seems to be a fine line of having all the right shots and just the right amount of discs to preform the shots without thinking too hard. Thanks for the post its interesting to see others approach to this mystery. I guess I should just shut up and throw now!

[sk8architecture]

Oh yeah it doesn't help that every month a new disc comes out that says its the farthest throwing disc EVER!!!!!!

[Sean Phillips]

I try to limit my bag for less confusion. The more you throw "X" disc the more you get to know what "X" disc flies like. Example: I throw orcs a lot, at times I will toss a brand new champ orc in the bag and use it in a tournament because I have thrown a lot of champ orcs in the last 2 years.

In my bag:
XD's
Rocs
Eagles
Orcs
Boss (new addition, I'm really liking the star ones)

[JMan]

168 X Pred
169 Z Force
169 Pro Rogue
175 Z Buzzz
172 Pro D Buzzz
168 Pro D Challenger
174 Soft Mag
Six molds, seven discs baby

[snap7times]

Originally Posted by RonTheWhip

I think paring down my bag has been one of the greater benefits to swtiching to Dcraft. In my initial attempts of trying everything I found a lot of solid molds, I've settled into a good rotation right now and have less than 20 discs on me during tourneys. In years past of carried around 25 in the bag at all times...yikes.

ESP Force (2)
ESP Pulse
ESP Surge
Z Surge
FLX Avenger
Z Avenger
Z Predator
ESP Predator
Sparkle Rogue
ESP Meteor
ESP Buzzz
ESP Buzzz
ESP Zone
Z Xtreme
D Challenger
Soft Magnet

17 discs. 12 molds. Each disc sees lots of action

No Crystal or Z Buzzz?

[RonTheWhip]

Originally Posted by snap7times

No Crystal or Z Buzzz?

They are on deck

The ESP Buzzz I think has the best grip, plus the new one in the bag is STABLE. Most Z Buzzz I''ve thrown have turn on them right out of the gate, I like the stable ones more.

I've heard domey Crystal Buzzz are stable, any truth to that?

[Magilla]

This is what I show up with in my bag for each event.......
I'll remove 7-10 discs depending on the course and conditions

Champ Firebird
CE Eagle
Star XCaliber (2)
Champ Boss
1st Run Star TRX
1st Run Star Destroyer
1st Run Champ Destroyer
Champ Destroyer
Champ Orc (2)
CFR CE TL (2)
"Old Mold" Whippet
Champ Beast
Star Beast (2)
KC 12x "Ching" Roc
DX Rancho Roc
DX San Marino Roc
DX Ontario Roc
"Original" San Marino Roc
Gator
Stingray
JK Pro Aviar X (2)

[snap7times]

Originally Posted by RonTheWhip

They are on deck

The ESP Buzzz I think has the best grip, plus the new one in the bag is STABLE. Most Z Buzzz I''ve thrown have turn on them right out of the gate, I like the stable ones more.

I've heard domey Crystal Buzzz are stable, any truth to that?

I throw a 168g Z Buzzz for those nice turnover shots that turn laterrr or can make it come earlier... and for those tight shots where you just have to go strong straight for 125-200 ft and almost zero fade...
Tried the meteor, blah, the Z Buzzz will do it all and more than the metoer..
176g ESP FLX buzzz which is stable but it will go straight or even turn if thrown hard and flat, perfect for hole 5 dexter long straight.
Crystal Buzzz is the most overstable of the bunch. I compare it to a 180g KC pro Roc but with a tad more fade at the end.
Had a pro D buzzz for a short time, bleh to that...

[zippyboy]

Personally I dug the Meteor. But then I switched to a Comet, and found it worked better for me. Then I accidently stumbled upon the Buzzz SS. Best straight midrange I have ever thrown. Only problem is that its Cryztal Clear, and I worry about losing it at the Mud or Trojan.

A number of people have mentioned the Avenger. Were any of those the Avenger SS? Just curious. Again, I have found this to be the most reliable of any driver I carry. And now having it in Z plastic...

As for my bag:

Six Avenger SS's (174g ESP, 172g FLX, 174g Z, 174g FLX, 169g ESP, 166g FLX - all in various levels of "beaten in")
Champion Monarch 175g
Champion Boss 175g
Champion TeeRex 175g (not a TeeRex-x)
Champion Destroyer 175g
DX TeeRex 150g
FLX Buzzz 174g
CryZtal Buzzz 174g
Crystal FLX Buzzz SS 176g
FLX Drone 175g
Organic Wizard 175g

And then there is the #1 Slice (160g) and #2 Hyzer (175g) for Trojan. Only 8 total molds, not including the Trojan discs. Apparently I have moved on from the 20+ molds I used to carry.... Maybe that's why my back hurts less

[D.L.]

if you're into the whole brevity thing-

a circle stamp gator, nobody fuxwizdah gatah'.
a gummy pro rhyno and a gummier PolarBear
a StarMax, ChampOrc, and StarDestoyer, those 5 172-175g
A Roadrunner for rolling and flipping, 165.
That, and a pair of testicles.

I'm unemployed,
Dude

[sk8architecture]

Update: I have played 4 rounds since triming down the amount of differnt types of Discs and I love it. It has made disc selection so much easier. If you were interested:
Old Bag:
1 destroyer
1 force
1 Surge
1 groove
1 wraith
1 rouge
1 monarch
1 Avenger ss
1 buzz
1 glide
1 storm (I wish they still made these...send me a PM if you have one to sell)
1 wasp
1 spider
1 roc
1 avair
1 birdie

Now!
2 destroyers
2 Surges
2 Rouges
2 Avenger SS
1 Groove(I think I will always have one disc that will rotate as new stuff comes out)
2 buzzzzzz
1 wasp
2 storms
1 glide
avair PNA and a Birdie

[Burge]

My bag right now:

169 DX Destroyer
165 S Illusion
172 Z SurgeSS
172 Power Genesis
161 Star SL
171 Star Monarch
162 Star Sidewinder
169 Champ Sidewinder
166 Pro-D AvengerSS
171 Opto Vision
175 Star Stingray
178 Buzzz-D
175 Z BuzzzSS
160 Woodchuck
170 SRP Rock-It
175 SSS Warlock
165 DX XD