Star Bosses

[Sean Phillips]

So who has one in their bag? What do you think of it?

I just picked up two from Disc Golf Depot and they feel really nice. The lip almost feels shallower, it seems to fit my hand a little better, weird and probably psychological.

I haven't had a chance to throw them yet. I'm a bit excited about them and it's making work go by really slow.

[desert_heat20]

I love mine I have 2 in the bag now. They do seem to be even more stable then the champion and mine are 167g star and they are more stable then my 172g champion

[Sean Phillips]

Hmmmm , that's almost bad news, because most of the champion Bosses have been a little too stable for my taste. At least the star plastic will beat up a little easier.

[Pizzel]

How do they compare to Star Destroyers?

[desert_heat20]

I find the destroyers much easier to flip over.

[captain jack]

I am convinced my Star Destroyers fly farther than my Champion ones.
Is this also true for the Boss ?

Those of you that have both in the same weight, can you tell me which one goes farther ?

Do you throw the Boss forehand, or backhand ?

[snap7times]

From my observations, the star and pro destroyers are the bomb, the champion destroyer was a fluke and i gave that thing away fast. I had a first run star destroyer that flew like a dream, but it's in fountain hills now and whoever finds it is gonna love it... I throw 1 star and 2 pro destroyers now.
From those who have the star boss, said it is better than the champion boss and easier to hold a line. I love my champion boss for headwind drives, want to get a star boss just to compare.
The champ groove seems to be FUBAR so far but havent been able to throw all the speed 11-13 discs at same time on open field enough to make a comparison...

[desert_heat20]

I throw both a lot and my Star Destroyers tend to go farther for me also. If I throw then both backhand they fly around the same distance for me the Boss may go a little farther, But if I throw forehand the Boss goes a lot farther then I can throw the Destroyer. No idea why that is but thats what happens for me.

[Sean Phillips]

When it comes to distance in an open field it all depends on the throw for me. I throw valkeries and orcs farther than anything in a field.

I like the boss for big hyzers, low window drives, and big skips. I threw my boss a couple times down at the Memorial when I wanted a big skip. It must have skipped close to 200 feet down there with fast greens.

[snap7times]

The mathematical perspective on why the boss is able to go so far on less power as opposed to the destroyer is that the rim has more weight in it than any other disc, so the force pulling the weight outwards keeps it spinning longer and faster since the majority of the weight is in the rims instead of sperad out throughout the disc itself like a roc or putter.
I was only able to throw my boss on holes 15, 17 and 18 at the fountain. 2, 3, 13, *should have 15*, 17 at VDC... However I didnt throw the boss everytime on all three rounds, boss can hyzer a little dangerously with it skip.
And yes, those fast greens were murder, had a wraith skip from the top of the hill all the way to the water on hole 2 on my 2nd shot. Thought i was safe with the 100+feet of room but nope...

[Sean Phillips]

Threw my two star bosses yesterday evening.

Both star bosses, 174 yellow and 173 blue, flew very similar. I can give them a good firm controlled snap and they will hold a straight line for about 300 ft then start fading for the next 100 or so. I feel like these are a bit less stable than most of the champion bosses I've thrown. It's hard to make accurate comparisons with innova's inconsistencies.

How they might compare against a Destroyer? I'd say they will be very similar with a minor improvement in speed. I think a beat up destroyer will hold a line longer. But I could be wrong, I'll have to see how these bosses fly after some use.

Overall, I really like these star bosses. They fit my hand much better than champ bosses, don't know how that's possible. At least one of these star bosses I just bought is going into the tournament bag right away.

[Sam]

If they are less stable, I might have to get a couple to try out. The Champions are hogs when thrown from my weenie arm.

[TreeLove]

Perhaps the Star Bosses are not made in the same mold as Champ Bosses...? Heck, it's Innova, the Star Boss might not even really be a Boss at all....?

[Bruce]

So from the askDave thread on the pdga forums, the lighter weight star bosses are MORE stable than the max weight. Just so you all know, if you don't read those boards.

[captain jack]

Originally Posted by Bruce

So from the askDave thread on the pdga forums, the lighter weight star bosses are MORE stable than the max weight. Just so you all know, if you don't read those boards.

Wow.
Thats interesting, but it defies the laws of physics.
Heavier weights are always more stable.
Maybe you could pull up that quote from Dave.

Unless you maybe read this and misinterpreted it.

Originally Posted by DaveD.

The new Star for long range drivers like Bosses and Destroyers has a different blend that allows for lighter weights and more stability at those lighter weights.

[Bruce]

"The lighter Star Bosses were more stable than some of the original Champion Bosses. The Champion is now more stable than the original too. I think the heavier Star Bosses are a little less stable than either." Dave D from Innova

That was the first quote I stumbled upon in my brief search, I know he said it more than once.

[captain jack]

Picked up a new 167 gram Star Boss yesterday.
I like the feel of the new plastic, its comfortable in my hand.
I can only throw these high speed discs forehand.

I am comparing it to my Star Destroyer, and my Elite Z Flick, which are my two main forehand discs.

The Star Boss flies straighter than the Destroyer, and needs less room to work with, although I havent thrown it as far, yet.

My Flick flies straighter, like dead straight, but doesnt have as much glide as the Boss.

I'm glad to finally have a new disc I find interesting, it will stay in the bag for now.

I am disappointed in the Monarch, which doesnt seem to do anything well for me, and the Xcaliber didnt come in lighter weights when I got mine, so its hard for me to generate enough spin with it.

I am hoping that Innova will make some Xcalibers in the new star light plastic, so they can get the weight down to something I might be able to throw.

The Boss, like the Xcaliber is nearly silent in flight, with no flutter, so I dont recommend it for crowded parks, where a stray drive could possibly hurt somebody.

[ChUcK]

Originally Posted by captain jack

Wow.
Thats interesting, but it defies the laws of physics.
Heavier weights are always more stable.
Maybe you could pull up that quote from Dave.

Unless you maybe read this and misinterpreted it.

I'm not sure if the physics of disc manufacturing and flight are understood well enough yet to make such bold statements. A smaller mass of hot plastic coming out of the same mold will flex differently (from a max weight mass of hot plastic) as it cools, which could cause minor changes in flight characteristics.

[Brian]

I bought a set of the ill-fated Innova backpack straps from Jerry and he said they sucked and the seams would rip and such. I got them anyhow thinking that I am very careful with my stuff. I hurt my shoulder just after that and barely even used them .. maybe 20 times and they were ripping everywhere. So I sent an email to Innova about my dissatisfaction, they responded VERY promptly and said they already replaced the vendor and that they would send me a new set + a disc. I listed a couple discs that would work great and let them know I was very appreciative of their prompt service and willingness to own up to a defect.

The very next day they sent me a new set AND a star Boss 168 and a ROC .. I had mentioned special blend(hehe) but they sent a DX.

The Star boss is awesome. If you get the right anhyzer on it, it just seems to go forever. It is VERY overstable though. Even with a mean anhyzer and a decent amount of wrist it still come back with a vengence. Man it feels good though.

As far as compared to a destroyer .. I seem to flip destroyers often so I stopped using them. I just never got the distance out of them that I got out of my Wraith so why keep it in the bag.