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Old December 26th, 2010, 10:30 AM
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JMan, Non-Profit does not mean you don't need money! Red Cross is non-profit, but they need billions of dollars to support their operations. This DGOD you speak of would need money to survive if they were as large as the PDGA. The PDGA is non-profit, but their operations need money to provide tournament support, ratings updates, a website, and things like that. I am sure that there isn't some huge vault full of money that the PDGA board members roll around in during their quarterly meetings. I agree that it has gotten expensive over the years, but so has everything else we do.
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Old December 26th, 2010, 02:28 PM
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JMan, Non-Profit does not mean you don't need money! Red Cross is non-profit, but they need billions of dollars to support their operations. This DGOD you speak of would need money to survive if they were as large as the PDGA. The PDGA is non-profit, but their operations need money to provide tournament support, ratings updates, a website, and things like that.
You forgot the full time employees their wages and bennies And don't forget the money pit that is the national headquarters

I thought I read somewhere that the pDGA has 6 month budget surplus. Isnt that kinda of like "gilding the Lilly" (and no not spider Dan).
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Old December 26th, 2010, 03:57 PM
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You forgot the full time employees their wages and bennies And don't forget the money pit that is the national headquarters

I thought I read somewhere that the pDGA has 6 month budget surplus. Isnt that kinda of like "gilding the Lilly" (and no not spider Dan).
I figured the employee and headquarter cost was obvious, as with most non-profit entities that operate at a national level.

Evidently you haven't ever owned your own business before, or you would understand that a business should have a minimum of six months worth of operating costs on hand. In these times, I would actually recommend a one year surplus. You never know what the future will hold!
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Old December 27th, 2010, 08:55 AM
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...Evidently you haven't ever owned your own business before, or you would understand that a business should have a minimum of six months worth of operating costs on hand. In these times, I would actually recommend a one year surplus. You never know what the future will hold!
Actually I do own my own business and having a cash surplus is totally a pipe dream. I know most businesses operate on a much tighter budget then non profits do. The only reason why a group that is showing growth would need a cash buffer is for long term capitol improvements. And If you ask me developing a national headquarters is a huge speculation with those resources. This just another example of top loading and doing on the backs of the new rank and file.

We are clearly not the only revenue stream, what happens to the others . Like the ad's that are overwhelming the site? With the net and the weekly newsletter do we really even need the Mag?

Or better yet do we really need the weeklies and the salaried positions that generates it?
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Old December 27th, 2010, 10:17 AM
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Hardly any membership or tour income goes to support the National HQ building and course construction (separate from payroll). Most of that development was from corporate and private donations plus the million$$ or so contributed by the taxpayers in the county to build the facility for us. In fact, the onsite Pro Shop is doing so well, its profits may be coming close to or exceeding the monthly operating costs for the HQ including rent.
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Old December 27th, 2010, 10:49 AM
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How does the elimination of the Grandmaster division at some NT events fit into the scheme of this?
You say some?
I'm curious as to which ones and even more curious as to why?
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Old December 27th, 2010, 11:26 AM
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Actually I do own my own business and having a cash surplus is totally a pipe dream.
A pipe dream?...so what you are saying is all the businesses who budget properly so they can afford a few setbacks without closing their doors is living in a pipe dream? Sounds like someone has figured out how to use drugs responsibly.

And on a separate note, where does your hatred for the Magazine come from?
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Old December 27th, 2010, 09:49 PM
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...what happens to the others .
Who gives a fuck?! Sayid say kill them!
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