PretzelBowl IV: Planning thread

[cefire]

So its a little bit later than usual, but I'm pretty close to finalizing a plan for this year. IF all goes according to said plan it is looking a bit like this:

Saturday, February 26
2 Rounds of 12-15 holes (combine into 1 round for ratings)
and...

The Pretzel has chosen a new park which is a bit more open and "traditional" compared to the Woodland layouts I've set up in the past.


I feel bad about dropping down to less than 18 holes because we maxed out 18 so quickly last year but:

1 - The new venue just doesn't have 18 good holes without renting large areas
2 - It is just too much work in the middle of winter to setup 18 pins
3 - 36 holes is just a bit much for winter golf, it would be nice to finish up a bit earlier than the past 2 years

So start getting ready, I'll definitely give a week of warning before registration opens.

I'm really excited about initial walkthroughs of the layout this year though, the course should be fantastic


If anyone has ideas about how to make this year better, I'd love to hear them...although I can't promise to use them

[JR Stengele]

Originally Posted by cefire

So its a little bit later than usual, but I'm pretty close to finalizing a plan for this year. IF all goes according to said plan it is looking a bit like this:

Saturday, February 26
2 Rounds of 12-15 holes (combine into 1 round for ratings)
and...

The Pretzel has chosen a new park which is a bit more open and "traditional" compared to the Woodland layouts I've set up in the past.


I feel bad about dropping down to less than 18 holes because we maxed out 18 so quickly last year but:

1 - The new venue just doesn't have 18 good holes without renting large areas
2 - It is just too much work in the middle of winter to setup 18 pins
3 - 36 holes is just a bit much for winter golf, it would be nice to finish up a bit earlier than the past 2 years

So start getting ready, I'll definitely give a week of warning before registration opens.

I'm really excited about initial walkthroughs of the layout this year though, the course should be fantastic


If anyone has ideas about how to make this year better, I'd love to hear them...although I can't promise to use them

1. Do it before Feb. for my own selfish reasons
2. Have my face on the CFR disc this year

[LakeStevensBA]

1. Do it any weekend I am not out of the country (0 for 2 last two years).
2. Don't put me in John Stengele's group.

[sillybizz]

3. Don't listen to the ideas of people from Lake Stevens or Mukilteo...

["Over the Hill" Bob]

Start me on a hole closer to Tournament Central darn it! I'm OLD you know!

Bob

[Tim]

You know how I feel about the Pretzelbowl and what I'd like to see: a series of Pretzelbowl-like events at different parks around the area. I know that amounts to exponentially more work, but, you've got my help in any way possible if you ever want to pursue it.

[sillybizz]

Originally Posted by Tim

You know how I feel about the Pretzelbowl and what I'd like to see: a series of Pretzelbowl-like events at different parks around the area. I know that amounts to exponentially more work, but, you've got my help in any way possible if you ever want to pursue it.

I love disc golf events that do something for charity, Kevin Hood and his MS tournament is a great idea and I know Andrew has done NW Harvest in years past which is awesome as well. I would love to help out in any capacity that I could too.

A series of charity events would be really great and there are several charities that come to mind that I would love to involve. Excellent idea Tim.

[cefire]

Originally Posted by Tim

You know how I feel about the Pretzelbowl and what I'd like to see: a series of Pretzelbowl-like events at different parks around the area. I know that amounts to exponentially more work, but, you've got my help in any way possible if you ever want to pursue it.

This is something I've been toying around with a little, not a "series" but perhaps sequential events that contribute to the PretzelBowl Champion.

Setup A - 2 separate events:

Event 1 - 2 rounds of 12-15 holes - Shotgun start - 48-60 players
Event 2 - 2 rounds of 12-15 holes - Shotgun start - 48-60 players

Pros:

• 24-30 holes each day
• 2 different courses
• Travelers can pick which event to play (or both!)

Cons:

• Fewer players
• No early finish
• Probably some waiting on tees
• Normal wait between rounds, etc.
• Duplicate PDGA costs

Setup B - Consecutive day single event:

Saturday - 12-15 holes Venue A - Tee times - 72 players
Sunday - 12-15 holes Venue B - Tee times - 72 players

Pros:

• Save on PDGA costs
• 2 different courses
• 72 players (& more $ raised for charity)
• Early finish - Social-time, side games, etc.
• No backups - 15 minute spread between groups
• Pick your group

Cons:

• Only 1 round per day
• Essentially 2-day event
• Traveling is difficult

Please, please, please give your thoughts on this...personally, I think the tee-time idea would be fantastic as a TD. Would people choose to attend one event type and not the other type?

[kyle95]

I personally like set up B more, but i will be there no matter what you chose.

[sillybizz]

Originally Posted by kyle95

I personally like set up B more, but i will be there no matter what you chose.

What he said.

[Cold Steel]

Please, please, please give your thoughts on this...personally, I think the tee-time idea would be fantastic as a TD. Would people choose to attend one event type and not the other type?[/quote]

Just curious- how much in PDGA fees do you save with B vs A?

[Nathan]

1 day events.

[cefire]

With the Charity Endowment program, it would come out to a savings of $100.

$50 to sanction each event
$50 for event insurance

[Toby Puttzinski]

I like A... one day events, you get a second crack at the course, and you get to play more rounds on (super-fun presumably)temp courses.

[Getty]

Personally, I like A because it's one day instead of a full weekend devoted to tournament play (hard for me to do that) and the travel costs from Carnation to wherever is prohibitive and a waste of resources for most everyone who drives to seperate events.

[papatart]

Stick to the one day format! If you want more players, then have two one day events where different divisions play on different days. This doubles the possibility of field size and still allows everyone to play that can only use one of their two weekend days for disc golf. If you have people that want to be there for both days, either playing in different divisions can accomodate that for them (ie advanced/open) or they can volunteer to help on the day they are not playing and get a little golf in during lunch time.

Double one day events are cool....Howliewood is a double one day event....Howliewood is way cool....point has been made.

Later,
Papa

[SPIDER-DAN]

Papa has a good point. Maybe do the one day event singles and then have the next day doubles in any format you like. Dnf, pro/am, random, etc. Its all for charity and everyone likes to play in doubles..........i like setup a.