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Old September 18th, 2010, 12:24 PM
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You can count me as one who finds it annoying. There are few things on the course that are mostly selfish. Smoking, screaming, littering and listening to "your" music. I have 3 kids, so my time on the course comes at a price (more than often I'm bargaining with my wife for playing time). I might take Disc Golf serious, but I feel my time is really precious and I just want to do well while out there. I think these avoidable distractions are a nuisance. Headphones for you, eye rolls for me!
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Old September 18th, 2010, 03:18 PM
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I can see backpacks with honking big amps and thumping sub-woofers coming to a course near you in the not-too-distant future.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 04:30 PM
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don't want my stroll in the park ruined by man-made sounds.
You mean, like the sound of an injection-molded polymeric plastic disc hitting galvanized iron chains, thrown by a (hu)man? What kind of Lord of the Flies middle-of-nowhere park do you frequent? Weak sauce, weak argument.

If there's money on the line, never. You have to let your competition distract themselves with their own thoughts.

Casual round, who gives a rat's? You'll probably miss the putt anyways. The time to be serious and focused is during field practice.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 06:55 PM
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Is that "Freedom Rock?" Well, TURN IT UP!!! Golf carts (excluding Rodney Dangerfield's and Puff Daddy's) don't come with stereos for a reason, dude. I'd say a weaker argument would be using speakers vs earphones so that one could 'hear what's going on'. Next time we golf together Chuck, I'm dusting off the old 'boom box' and borrowing a few of BA's Lionel Richey and Barry Manilow tapes. Nothing gets me pumped to chuck a disc like some 'Dancing on the Ceiling'... oh what a feelin'... when you're..
And no, you can't play any of your Miley Cyrus or Al'Margir cd's, Chuck.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 07:52 PM
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What about if it is okay with other groups on the course? I fall into the it's annoying as hell camp.
Well if you aren't within 20 feet of me you don't have to worry about it.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 08:55 PM
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You can count me as one who finds it annoying. There are few things on the course that are mostly selfish. Smoking, screaming, littering and listening to "your" music. I have 3 kids, so my time on the course comes at a price (more than often I'm bargaining with my wife for playing time). I might take Disc Golf serious, but I feel my time is really precious and I just want to do well while out there. I think these avoidable distractions are a nuisance. Headphones for you, eye rolls for me!
Amen brother. There are very few parts of my life that music is not a part of, or couldn't be a part of if I wanted. I listen to music all day long. For me disc golf is not only about the game but about experiencing the natural world. I botanize, watch birds, butterflies, dragonflies, etc. when I play, even during tournament rounds. It's a big part of what I enjoy about the pastime.

Amplified music goes right on the list with loose pitbulls, litterers, casual groups of eight, and shirtless aggro douchebags as things I dislike encountering on the course.

But that's just one man's opinion, and I've never asked anyone to turn their tunes off.
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Old September 19th, 2010, 06:53 AM
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Amplified music goes right on the list with loose pitbulls, litterers, casual groups of eight, and shirtless aggro douchebags as things I dislike encountering on the course.
NO PHKNSHYTE, MAN! I swear there was one afternoon when I was stuck behind a group of eight shirtless aggro douchebags with a boom box and two pitbulls. It is so frustrating when a bunch of inconsiderate idgits like this ruin the flow of a good round, or worse, force you to skip part of the course because they don't have the sense to let others play through.

Music is a wonderful part of life, but I would say that a vast majority of players, from Pro to Rec, do not find the random inclusion of someone else's choice of music to be appropriate, or even tolerable, on the course.
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Old September 20th, 2010, 05:34 PM
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MP3 Player or not, in my opinion it just comes down to consideration. If you're on the course at 7am, no one wants to hear it that early! If you're with a course full of people, keep it to a minimum, just common courtesy. If you've got the course to yourself, bust it out, don't blast it to offend nearby neighbors though. I have one, but so do others in our group, I will hear it if it offends anyone and I have no problem turning it off, I'm out there to throw and have a good time, so who am I to ruin someone else's time? Use your common sense and think of others.
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Old September 20th, 2010, 06:30 PM
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Adding to the "no" votes. I'm outside in the woods because I want to hear the woods. Or hear nothing. Or hear chains.
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Old September 20th, 2010, 09:19 PM
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All the "no way" votes sound like positive votes for pay-to-play private courses. Do you people walk over to the pre-teens having a water balloon fight in the park and tell them to knock it off, there's people golfing here? Anytime someone pulls a golf disc out of their bag all sounds within 100 yards must cease just to suit you?

Follow the rules of the park, wherever that may be. If you're at Lucky Mud, leave the MP3 player in the car. If you are at Lakewood, let the sound fly. It's a public park first, and a disc golf course distant second. Obviously you should make sure it's okay with everybody in your group, but other groups' opinions should matter not. Remember, you think the guys with the pit bulls and the jam box are such assholes, what do you think their assessment is of your stuffed shirt? Who wins the opinion battle?

Next time you hear someone yell exuberantly in the park after getting an ace or a killer birdie, run your offended little ass over there and tell 'em to pipe down or you'll write a frisbee golf forum post about how much you disapprove of their noise.

The way some of you are arguing against it makes you sound like the hater/golfers from Falling Down. At least those d-bags were at a private country club with legal precedent.

One last note- some of you are confusing impolite actions with illegal actions. Placing litterers and music-listeners in the same category is pretty asinine.
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Old September 20th, 2010, 10:03 PM
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One last note- some of you are confusing impolite actions with illegal actions. Placing litterers and music-listeners in the same category is pretty asinine.
And also everyone seems to forget that smoking pot is illegal, let alone in a public park. I don't want to be a jerk, but I am pretty tired of smelling pot EVERY DANG TIME I play Pier Park.
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Old September 20th, 2010, 10:08 PM
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If only it was illegal to hijack your own thread with such a boring topic.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:42 AM
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All the "no way" votes sound like positive votes for pay-to-play private courses. Do you people walk over to the pre-teens having a water balloon fight in the park and tell them to knock it off, there's people golfing here? Anytime someone pulls a golf disc out of their bag all sounds within 100 yards must cease just to suit you?

Follow the rules of the park, wherever that may be. If you're at Lucky Mud, leave the MP3 player in the car. If you are at Lakewood, let the sound fly. It's a public park first, and a disc golf course distant second. Obviously you should make sure it's okay with everybody in your group, but other groups' opinions should matter not. Remember, you think the guys with the pit bulls and the jam box are such assholes, what do you think their assessment is of your stuffed shirt? Who wins the opinion battle?

Next time you hear someone yell exuberantly in the park after getting an ace or a killer birdie, run your offended little ass over there and tell 'em to pipe down or you'll write a frisbee golf forum post about how much you disapprove of their noise.

The way some of you are arguing against it makes you sound like the hater/golfers from Falling Down. At least those d-bags were at a private country club with legal precedent.

One last note- some of you are confusing impolite actions with illegal actions. Placing litterers and music-listeners in the same category is pretty asinine.
It's also pretty asinine to pretend that anyone said any of the things you're arguing against. No one called anyone an asshole (ok, I called some people douchebags, but I was referring to people acting like douchebags, not because of music) or said music or pit bulls were illegal. Last I looked, it was still legal to express an opinion.

"Amplified music goes right on the list with loose pitbulls, litterers, casual groups of eight, and shirtless aggro douchebags as things I dislike encountering on the course." Hmm, things I dislike.....yeah, how dare anyone dislike something.

"But that's just one man's opinion, and I've never asked anyone to turn their tunes off."

By the way, next time you see someone smoking pot in the park, run your offended little ass over there and tell 'em to stop because it is ILLEGAL or you'll write a frisbee golf forum post about how much you disapprove of their behavior.

I've never asked anyone to turn off their tunes, " but I'm glad you were able to get all worked up over this topic.

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Old September 21st, 2010, 09:07 AM
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I also am annoyed by most of the people that think I want to hear their music while I am enjoying a round of disc golf. I love music, loud music, and most types of music. However, when I'm playing disc golf, I would rather enjoy the outdoor sounds than the tinny second hand sounds coming from someone's golf bag.

The music may sound good to the person or group carrying the music, but to the others on the course it is usually just annoying background noise. What might be your casual round, might be another group's competitive money round....or another casual round where they don't want to listen to country music in fear of starting a fight within their group.

Have you ever gone to the beach with the family and had a group set up next to you and crank up their boombox so everyone in the area has to hear it? At least on the beach you can pack up and move. On a DG course this group just follows you around.

And Toby, don't be dissin on my Lionel Richie and Barry Manilow tapes. If I could find a portable 8-track player for my disc golf bag you could be enjoying this with me during my next round at NorthPark. I get my ass kicked at Lake Stevens for playing this, but I think I could get away with it there....

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Old September 21st, 2010, 09:20 AM
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I can't see those little HMDX speaker sets being loud enough to bug the guys putting 250 feet ahead of the group on the tee. The volume will only be close to right for the guy carrying it and setting their own best levels. For the rest of the group, it will depend on proximity and be much like an AM station fading in and out at night. Not optimum listening for any but the speaker bearer. I don't see it enhancing the group's pleasure in any democratic fashion. If everyone had their own set of speakers, well, we can see that working out. Dueling speakers. Under that eventuality, earphones would be the only solution. With only one set of speakers emitting, there's only one good seat, with the others getting musical crumbs. Cool, if that's what they like.

I guide a lot of people around this course. I want people to enjoy their golfing experience. I don't particularly like the speakers. I don't like their tobacco smoke. I rarely, if ever, say anything about either. I do watch what people do with their cigarette butts and other litter and will say something if I see them foul the grounds.

I listen to books on audio with my MP3 player. About the only time use it outside is during wood splitting or course mowing, to cover the machinery noises. If I'm out there just walking around, I want to hear the silence, or the birds chirping and salamanders croaking, or leaves shaking, or tree branches crashing down.

I probably talk too much, but everyone is different when it comes to that. Some talk about the game. Some talk about fantasy football (how they do go on). Some people yell about good shots. Some yell about bad shots. Some folks are serious, and some joke around. There are only a small few that I don't want to be golfing with here, but there is that few. There are probably some that don't want to be golfing with me. I hope that is only a few as well. There's no telling about personalities, likes, and dislikes.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 03:11 PM
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I'm not arguing for mp3 music, I'm highlighting the crap in the nay arguments.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 03:27 PM
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How is "I find it annoying as hell" a crappy argument? No one's trying to win first place at the debate tournament here.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 03:47 PM
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Very true.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 04:11 PM
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I'm not arguing for mp3 music, I'm highlighting the crap in the nay arguments.
I'm not arguing for mp3 music, I'm highlighting the straw men I constructed and placed in the nay arguments.

Fixed it for you.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 12:26 AM
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Ugh, more weak sauce. I wish I had some weak fish n' weak chips to go along with your weak argument style.

I suppose I imagine all the WA arguments coming from Lakewood Park, and all the OR arguments coming from Pier. I forget that you guys down there actually have state parks (re: nice places) with courses in them. Either way, take it easy homeskillet.
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