Peoples Park

[Parks]

Timber, where did you get that shot of the People's Park area?

I like it a lot better than the Google Earth one that I've been using. It has a lot less shadows, and I think the coloring is better for a course map.

[Timber]

Originally Posted by Parks

Timber, where did you get that shot of the People's Park area?

I like it a lot better than the Google Earth one that I've been using. It has a lot less shadows, and I think the coloring is better for a course map.

Thanks. I cut and pasted screen shots from Bing Maps birdseye view.

http://www.bing.com/maps/

It took an hour or so to assemble and it's still not perfect. There is a bust in the registration because the birdseye camera angle shifts as you move across the site. You can see the break above the pin for Hole 7.

[Parks]

Any way you can post the map without any lines on it here?

That way anyone (more likely, just myself) can use it to draw up course proposals.

[Parks]

Attached is my map of the current layout.

The West Hills area includes Red tees now.

[Timber]

Originally Posted by Parks

Any way you can post the map without any lines on it here?

That way anyone (more likely, just myself) can use it to draw up course proposals.

Ask and ye shall receive

[SeanT00]

So I played through the new People's Park layout today at the fundraiser. While I did enjoy playing new holes today, I still rather enjoyed the older and shorter layout better. I originally believed the purpose of the People's Park course to be a more beginner friendly course where amateur's can build up the experience they need to keep up on longer courses like High Bridge and Downriver. So what happened?

The new layout did not do much to address the issues mentioned in earlier posts. In fact, I think there were more blind spots and issues with the new layout in terms of friendliness to non-player park users. It seemed to me that this layout could much more easily result in injury to people that you can't see. At least when it was short, you could see the entire hole and the vicinity around the bucket to be watchful for others.

My other gripe is with the West Plains 5. The walk is long and forces disc golfers to contend with motorists driving around blind corners. It just isn't the safest way to do things considering that the holes there are all short anyway (exception 17).

I believe the first layout offers a great experience for newer players in that the holes are short but also technically challenging. I think it forces players (beginner and intermediate) to tighten up their shots and focus on control rather than power. I demand that the first course come back!!

On another note, I would like to hear an update on the fundraising for baskets at People's. I would love to see baskets in the near future and wouldn't mind helping with fundraising efforts if this would speed the process along.

[Travis]

Didn't really play the old layout so don't have much to say about changes. I had no major problem with the first 13 besides my own bad playing.

The five across the river don't work though. Too far a walk on unforgiving pavement that will be hot as balls during the summer. There is a safety concern with walking on the road too. No of us want to read the story of some one getting hit by a car. People could drive to the last five, but there doesn't seem to be enough parking. Also who wants to drive for five more holes.

I do like the effort the SDGA has put into Peoples Park. You guys are really trying to grow disc golf in the area. Thanks.

[kitawolf]

I played the new course layout on Saturday and I have to agree with SeanT00. I liked the shorter layout and did not like having to crossover to the other holes across the creek. Perhaps I would grow to like the layout the more I played it, but the first time was not as fun as the old layout.

[Sky Pilot]

Hey thanks Lyle for setting up the course and running the benifit. I heard that it raised over $200.00. That's cool!

Sky Pilot
President
SDGA

[Timber]

Yes, thanks Lyle for the effort that went into this. Kudos to you! I know a lot of work went into presenting this new option to us.

That said, however, I have to agree with the previous posters. The first layout - even in its infancy - was already my favorite Spokane course. The new one I found to be not as fun, less beginner-friendly and more dangerous. Some of the individual holes are good, but the overall layout doesn't flow as well with the park trails and other features. There were more than a few holes where I was reluctant to throw because I didn't know if there were people in harm's way or not. I felt the old layout filled a real need in the Spokane area course options; the new one, not so much. If it's a vote, I'm for the original or a slightly tweaked version of it.

[Parks]

Originally Posted by Sky Pilot

Hey thanks Lyle for setting up the course and running the benifit. I heard that it raised over $200.00. That's cool!

I set up the course, but I ended up playing and didn't run shit.

That was all Bob. I suck at running anything bigger than a weekly.

Thanks, Bob!

[Parks]

Originally Posted by Timber

That said, however, I have to agree with the previous posters. The first layout - even in its infancy - was already my favorite Spokane course. The new one I found to be not as fun, less beginner-friendly and more dangerous. Some of the individual holes are good, but the overall layout doesn't flow as well with the park trails and other features. There were more than a few holes where I was reluctant to throw because I didn't know if there were people in harm's way or not. I felt the old layout filled a real need in the Spokane area course options; the new one, not so much. If it's a vote, I'm for the original or a slightly tweaked version of it.

Yup, right now there's no vote. My course isn't even an option. Right now, Kevin's old layout with some minor tweaks is the only option for the permanent plan.

I'm glad I got to set up it and see how it plays, though. That's what the buckets are for :D

I'd still like to see others bring in ideas for something that can be both family and beginner friendly and still challenging enough for experienced players that we can use it for tournaments.

[Burge]

I finally played the Peoples Park course yesterday and I've got some feedback:

First and foremost, super kudos to all that have worked so hard to get this course up and running. This town could use three more courses, but one is a good start.

Second, I have to make note of the fact that all three courses, (Highbridge, Downriver and now, Peoples Park) reside atop historic areas. Downriver used to be a hotel/resort, Highbridge and Peoples Park were both railroad era boomtown neighborhoods filled with the laborers that built the two massive trestles that used to loom overhead. More importatnly, long before those concrete stanchions were dropped in the water, this little peninsula was a tribal fishing village for many generations. Many of the paths through the park have been walked on for centuries. Bearing that in mind, there should be the utmost care taken to keep this course tidy and well-respected.

On to the course... Love it. Not a lot of long holes, but lots of really technical shots. Great course to get beginners some good experience and make the big arms show they still know how be accurate. I'd say there is still some safety issues on 2, 3, and 4, but if people are careful, and a little brush is cleared out, it could work.

What I really wanted was a bigger map, so I made a new one...

checkit...

I cut and pasted this map from bing in about 5 minutes and drew what seemed to be the current course--Kevin's setup with 15 going uphill instead of down--or as best as I could determine with the map I printed from the thread and the fact that the buckets on 2, 5. 14, 15 ,17 and 18 were missing, so my lines may be a bit off on some holes. (I've attached a blank version for those who want to mock up their own) There was also no surveyor's tape anywhere. You can see the detail of the park better at this angle and I eliminated the west bank from the picture (since it seems to be ruled out due to numerous logistic and safety reasons) so as to make the map slightly larger.

Use it, fix it, or make your own...it's all good.

[kitawolf]

Great Map! Thanks!

[Uhlman]

I have a question about the targets at people’s park. I have gleaned from the posts that they are upside-down buckets on some sort of stand. I am setting up a temporary course for a local (to me) camp and I think this would work well for this. I was wondering if you guys had a picture of the target or could send me plans.

[Burge]

Played PP again this morning. Only 7 was missing today.

Where do these nutjobs put the targets after they steal them? I looked in the bushes/woods/creek...where the eff is it? Ridiculous...

[Yoduh]

They like to break them and hide them or throw them in the river.. Curious to see what steps they take when we put baskets in? Hopefully we get some BOMB proof baskets.. Not sure about our rubber mats.. don't seem very safe to put in

[Gordy #21004]

Originally Posted by Burge

Played PP again this morning. Only 7 was missing today.

Where do these nutjobs put the targets after they steal them? I looked in the bushes/woods/creek...where the eff is it? Ridiculous...

Kevin is like Jay Leno in a Doritos ad; 'We'll make more'

[Burge]

A friend of mine from Bellevue was in town today and we played Peoples this morning (yes, in the rain--which wasn't so bad...but the long wet grass was brutal), and yes, there was another bucket missing from 17. We made a search of the area and didn't see it...

...fargin iceholes

BTW: he thought the course was pretty awesome and can't wait to come back when there's baskets.

[SeanT00]

Howdy again! Have we heard any news from the Parks Department regarding the People's Park course? It's been a little over a month now and I'm excited to hear what the word is. I can't imagine why it takes the damn bureaucrats so long to make a decision that to me seems so simple.