WB tee signs: what do you think?

[Adam Schneider]

Laser rangefinder is the best option by far, if you've got one handy. The only question then, on a hole like that, is whether to report the base of the triangle or the hypoteneuse.

[TreeLove]

Distance from tee to pin has got to be distance from tee to pin. It has just got to be. Hypotenuse. Otherwise, the stat is meaningless! What if a hole were 900 feet down, and 10 feet ahead? Is that a 10-foot hole? I think it cannot be....

[Adam Schneider]

Originally Posted by TreeLove

Distance from tee to pin has got to be distance from tee to pin. It has just got to be. Hypotenuse. Otherwise, the stat is meaningless! What if a hole were 900 feet down, and 10 feet ahead? Is that a 10-foot hole? I think it cannot be....

No, it's not a 10' hole... but you have to admit it doesn't take 900' of power!

Truth is, on most holes, it doesn't matter much. A 400' (horizontal) hole that goes up or down 50' is only 403'! WB#14's elevation is an extreme case; but even there, if it's 700' across and 150' down, the hypoteneuse is only 16' longer.

[TreeLove]

Originally Posted by Adam Schneider

No, it's not a 10' hole... but you have to admit it doesn't take 900' of power!

OK, fine, so the hole is 900 feet UP, and 10 feet forward: Now it requires LOTS of power! Is the hole:

a) 900 feet
b) 10 feet
c) more than 900 feet

Answer: C!

[Adam Schneider]

Originally Posted by TreeLove

OK, fine, so the hole is 900 feet UP, and 10 feet forward: Now it requires LOTS of power! Is the hole:

a) 900 feet
b) 10 feet
c) more than 900 feet

Answer: C!

Sure, if you want to call 900.055 "more" than 900.

[Another Primate]

Another complication:
I watched Pina-the-third park it about thirty feet from the pin. So measuring through the air to the pin, for him, makes sense. When I throw, my goal is to put it at the bottom of the hill, this side of the road. Next shot, across the road and while it would be sweet to make it past the gully, it ain't gonna happen in most cases. Then up the hill to the pin. So if we were to make a triangle (not a right-angle triangle, either) out of that picture, Pina's got the top leg, and I have the other two legs (pad to bottom of gully to top of pin hill)... grinning... my route, even if I throw it straight, has to add many extra feet to that hole.
Yeah, I'm sure pin distances don't account for my "along the ground" route. But. What if it's more extreme than that, and even a good player can't count on his shots traveling that plane? Let's say Grizzly. Shouldn't the distances be measured between a pro's best shot points, then added together?
Oh, wait. That's stupid. Sorry. C'mon, Sue... the reason, the reason for distances, is "hey, how far away is that pin", not "how far am I gonna have to walk to get to that pin"?
Carry on.

[Matt B.]

I got a chance to see the new tee signs on the first few holes this weekend. Great job - those are some of the best tee signs I've seen, both in terms of accurate info and good looks. One question though - any thought to mounting them on posts insted of into the trees? I know the old signs were also in the trees so the parks people must be okay with it, but there's something kind of harsh about seeing these great new signs screwed right into living trees. It won't kill the tree, but it can injure them somewhat, and make a lot of sap run onto the sign, etc. And it just kind of hurts to look at.

I know posts and cement aren't free.