Why No DX Bosses and Katanas?

[Ol' Bob]

Originally Posted by sillybizz

The only thing you guys are missing are the torches and pitchforks!

[snap7times]

I say try beat 10x kc pro eagle... i got one that was already beaten and this baby flies so nice on a much softer throw... Instead of trying for bosses and katanas... find those speed 7-9 discs that fly far and easily on lower power??

[captain jack]

Originally Posted by snap7times

I say try beat 10x kc pro eagle... i got one that was already beaten and this baby flies so nice on a much softer throw... Instead of trying for bosses and katanas... find those speed 7-9 discs that fly far and easily on lower power??

Still doesnt fly as far.

I have
150 Champ Eagle X
141 KC Pro Gazelle
150 Dx Beast
150 Dx Destroyer
150 Star Valkyrie
150 Dx Teerex
147 Dx Valkyrie
150 Dx Stingray
150 R Pro Boss
145 R Pro Boss
136 R Pro Boss
124 Nike Raging Inferno DT Ultralight

The Beast, then the 136 Boss fly consistently the farthest downwind with my puny OAT riddled arm.
Dx Destroyer is VERY stable, flies sky high flex lines like the Teerex, but lacks the glide of the Boss.

I would buy 150 Katanas if I could find them.

They did run some 150 class Dx Xcalibers for the J.O. but I dont think demand is good enough to release this disc in regular production.

Dave has production Boss's and Destroyers in premium Star plastic down to 165 grams now, its only a matter of time before he gets the right formula to mold these in 150 class.

[SPIDER-DAN]

It is hard to describe what we may think is best for anyone else.......just suggestions of course. I found out that my own son actually throws a slipstream gt very well even though he can throw a pro katana further. I have added some good d with the katana and i love it........got 4 in the bag, but the jk valkyrie and champion/star sidewinders are still my choice for very pinpiont accuracy shots.

However i did notice that if a pro katana gets beat in for about 3-6 months it will more than likely fly very understable and just like a dx version if there was one. I throw a 168 pro katana first run and i flip it over pretty easily most of the time and i do not have the big arms like most pros. I throw an average of 350' but i also throw with my disc at the hyzer position and let them flip up as well.........always something to take into consideration when suggesting discs to anyone else.

[snap7times]

Accuracy is way more important than distance... And just saying it takes alot more power to throw those speed 13 discs regardless of their weight. I would totally advise the older men to watch Dr. Voakes, that guy has like 10 discs in his bag and he just throws smoothly and his accuracy is awesome but he has no distance.

[Uhlman]

What I think Ol’ Bob is saying is that he like how the DX plastic feels in his hands and he also likes how the Boss and Katana flies for his throwing style. He is also, from what I hear, “old and decrepit” and therefore throws lightweight discs. Naturally, he wants the mold, plastic, and weight he can throw effectively. Is that really too much to ask? I don't think so.

[Ol' Bob]

I could live with R-Pro if it didn't cost more for plastic that won't last worth a crap. Some DXs (if only a few) beat just right into my wheelhouse and stay there.

It's quite simple, while the R-Pro Bosses are in their five minute window of beat in just right, I can glide them farther than anything else I've tried. Next time I hit something, that may be over. I haven't had an R-Pro anything that has lasted.

"Fast" is a funny descriptor for discs. For a given weight, no disc is going to be faster than anyone's arm/wrist speed at release. Perhaps "drag rating" would be a better way to put it. That sharp edge and long tapered wide rim combine for less drag and faster rotation. Obviously, it is these lightweights, once beat up a little, that maximize my ability to glide. The wider rim allows me (the snapless wonder) to impart a little better spin, and that is probably where that little extra distance I get comes from.

All that aside, if there are technical difficulties in molding the so-called "fast" discs in a lighter DX, then I guess I'm screwed and will go wanting, grumbling at the more spendy R-Pros when they go flip city, far too soon.

[Flatroc]

Hey Bob,
Have you tried having 2, 3 of the same disc (mold,weight) and once one is at a certain stage don't use it for shots it can get beat more.
For instance I carry 4-5 Rocs most of the time.
#1 is beat to crap and makes magic and 4 or 5 are "clean" and I use them mainly where I won't smack a tree too soon from my release.
If you haven't tried the 150 dx Destroyer yet, I would.
Also, those ultra light Infernos that Cap Jack mentioned are really boss man.
They feel a lot like DX.

[barbikes]

I too have found that the R-pro Boss goes further than any other disc for me. I also agree that they get flippy real quick.
Y'all have tried tuning them haven't you? I find that if I work all the way around on a flippy one bending the outside rim up that they are even more stable than new and seem to hold the set for a game or two at least. Tuning them greatly increases their lifespan.
Of course, Your results may vary.

[Another Primate]

Originally Posted by Ol' Bob

Maybe Innova is still in negotiations with Springsteen for rights to the hot stamp art for the DX Boss.

That's funny.

[T-Bird]

Originally Posted by Ol' Bob

Some DXs (if only a few) beat just right into my wheelhouse and stay there.

I have a DX Teebird that did that. It's just right and seems to be staying that way. Love it.

[Ol' Bob]

That's why, if not producing these discs is a marketing strategy, it wouldn't make sense. Though the DX is cheaper, I'll buy enough of them to find that one disc, knowing it will fly better for me than the ones that last forever that you only buy once.