Baskets stolen from Ft Steilacoom!!!!!! - Page 2 - Fort Steilacoom

Toby Puttzinski · #21 January 26th, 2010, 01:09 AM

Sorry to hear about this TDGPA... I was just saying the other day how I need to make it down to Steily more.

Pulling the baskets and taking the stance that the course will not be reinstalled until the stolen ones are returned may prove to be a good strategy... it should put (peer)pressure on the idiots that stole them--this worked up at Mossy Roc from what I was told-- the baskets were returned, along with some free stickers to boot.
Maybe the club could have a fund raising tourney to help offset the cost of replacing/securing the baskets. How helpful are the police trying to be in these instances? Video surveillance next?

douglaselvis · #22 January 26th, 2010, 07:52 AM

damn....

LakeStevensBA · #23 January 26th, 2010, 08:03 AM

I wonder if it's not other disc golfers, but maybe some tweeked out meth heads who plan to sell them for scrap. Might want to put the word out to the local scrap yards to keep an eye out for them as well.

Sorry to hear about this. That is BS.

olydiscgolf · #24 January 26th, 2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LakeStevensBA

I wonder if it's not other disc golfers, but maybe some tweeked out meth heads who plan to sell them for scrap. Might want to put the word out to the local scrap yards to keep an eye out for them as well.

Sorry to hear about this. That is BS.

Yards don't buy metal by the "basket", they buy it by the ton. There is ZERO metal value from a basket.

mazza · #25 January 26th, 2010, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by olydiscgolf

Yards don't buy metal buy the "basket", they buy it by the ton. There is ZERO metal value from a basket.

hey chris u guys got room for me at oly. i gota warm up for the ice bowl some where now

Ol' Bob · #26 January 26th, 2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAILMAN

... we will weld the basket heads, baskets and collar sleeves to the pipe itself.

If it's not too late, let me suggest brazing the parts together. The zinc coatings make a great flux for the molten bronze to sweat into the joints. It would only take a little brazing to make disassembly impossible. The original zinc will stay in place to protect the steel and the bronze also will not rust. To weld the parts, the zinc will have to be ground away and the bead and ground portions will rust.

Anyone else wishing to secure parts together on your courses: this brazing process can be easily done in place with a portable oxy/acetylene outfit. No need to pull baskets to do it.

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Insurance for baskets? Figure the cost of replaced baskets plus profits for the greed industry. The mob would love for us to be paying for its protection. They'd probably steal them just to build the market.

ChUcK · #27 January 26th, 2010, 10:53 AM

Are you sure there isn't another way to come up with 3 baskets without instantly resorting to new from the factory? Maybe you can spend some time researching for used targets. There's plenty of people who own baskets, and they're not all just cheezy portables.

Besides, with all these welding/metalworking capabilities, is it possible to turn a portable Mach III into an identical permanent target? I'd hate to see all your cash being frittered away because of a couple bad-apple douchebags.

Tim · #28 January 26th, 2010, 11:02 AM

You don't often see people selling primo baskets though (at least, legitimately). Usually, if baskets are for sale, they're cheapies that people are trying to sell so they can buy a top notch one.

It would be super easy to turn a Mach III into a stationary target, you have to pay extra to make it portable, actually. But as far as replacing baskets more cheaply, I think the most viable option would be to have a Cool Shoez type guy to build ones from scratch. Or go the Oregon route and get the cheaper Mach II News and add extra chains.

GettinBetter · #29 January 26th, 2010, 02:08 PM

I know the guy at chainbangerz started making his own baskets. Maybe you could be a "tester" for them and a super cheap price to you.

TREX · #30 January 26th, 2010, 04:16 PM

Like Gilberts said "it's a constant battle". That is soo true. GL finding the Asshats that took them and I hope you guys can figure a way to keep this from recurring.

sk8architecture · #31 January 26th, 2010, 04:51 PM

Not sure how they are taking them but I can only think of two ways one being cut the lock which the solution has already been discussed. Second would be to cut the basket at the base. Could you potentially fill the hoolow portion of the pipe with concrete maybe throw in some lead to make it heavy and hard to cut??

Getty · #32 January 27th, 2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sk8architecture

Not sure how they are taking them but I can only think of two ways one being cut the lock which the solution has already been discussed. Second would be to cut the basket at the base. Could you potentially fill the hoolow portion of the pipe with concrete maybe throw in some lead to make it heavy and hard to cut??

On my old home course in Baton Rouge we fabricated steel sleeves that encased the pole all the way up to the basket. The baskets slip easily out of the sleeves if you want to move them around, but those sleeves aren't going anywhere. 22 years later all those baskets are still there. Sorry I can't find a better pic.

KG_MCDGC · #33 February 1st, 2010, 01:11 PM

After talking to them this weekend, I feel it needs to be said. Thank you! Thank you Rob and Mark, for not only making the tough decision to pull baskets, but mainly for putting yourselves in the position of being lightning-rods for the barrage of complaints and negative comments on your actions. I love to hear about you guys handling it with as much grace as you have. I would not wish the choice you guys were given on anyone. Inspiring stuff here...

General Scales · #34 February 1st, 2010, 02:16 PM

I would just hire Dion Arlyn to do your security. Then he could play night rounds and beat thieves with his Kempo mastery!!!

Seriously though, I would love to go out there at night and catch them. I wouldn't be so kind...

Garrett · #35 February 6th, 2010, 10:58 AM

This totally sucks. Yesterday was a nice day, I hollered at my boy to grab his discs and we headed down to the course only to find the place a barren waste land with no people and no baskets. I thought the end was here, that the apocalypse was upon us and looked to the sky for fire to rain down upon us.

I volunteer to place an order for at least one basket in the third or fourth week of March. Come March, someone hit me up reminding me to do this and where to have it shipped when I order it please (Email me from the contact info in my profile for this as I don't check in here everyday).

~Garrett

olydiscgolf · #36 February 6th, 2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Garrett

This totally sucks. Yesterday was a nice day, I hollered at my boy to grab his discs and we headed down to the course only to find the place a barren waste land with no people and no baskets. I thought the end was here, that the apocalypse was upon us and looked to the sky for fire to rain down upon us.

I volunteer to place an order for at least one basket in the third or fourth week of March. Come March, someone hit me up reminding me to do this and where to have it shipped when I order it please (Email me from the contact info in my profile for this as I don't check in here everyday).

~Garrett

Very cool! You should get in contact with Mark kilmer, Rob Dean, or Raymond Seick. They are the board members for the club and would greatly appreciate a basket donation.

It was decided to day to leave the course empty until metal sleeves can be fabricated to secure the locks better.

r.gause · #37 February 7th, 2010, 01:47 AM

that sucks. disc golf isnt sappose to be like this. fuckers making shit bad for us{well you guys who play there} i have never heard of any person who likes disc golf to steal. fucking fakes just buy a portable.

hope you find them and they have to pay for them and return them...and go to jail

DMAILMAN · #38 February 11th, 2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Garrett

This totally sucks. Yesterday was a nice day, I hollered at my boy to grab his discs and we headed down to the course only to find the place a barren waste land with no people and no baskets. I thought the end was here, that the apocalypse was upon us and looked to the sky for fire to rain down upon us.

I volunteer to place an order for at least one basket in the third or fourth week of March. Come March, someone hit me up reminding me to do this and where to have it shipped when I order it please (Email me from the contact info in my profile for this as I don't check in here everyday).

~Garrett

Am sending you a private message..
Rob

Sky Pilot · #39 February 11th, 2010, 09:21 PM

Hey west-siders,

I've thought a lot about what it would be like it we had 7 baskets stolen from one of our courses here in Spokane. I was wondering if all the baskets were bolt cut or just plain wrested out of the ground cement and all?
If they were bolt cut I've been thinking that the various basket companies need to re-configure their designs so that a thief only has one option, and that is dragging it out cement and all. Not many thieves are interested in working too hard.
We're putting in a redesign of the Downriver. I hope (God willing and weather permitting) that we have it done before the Downriver Open - April 10th & 11th.
We just got the green light from the Park Department today. Our board approved a welder and fellow disc golfer to design a way so that the locks cannot be bolt cut. There would be some kind of metal structure around the locks so that a thief couldn't get a bolt cutter on the lock.
Sounds like you guys are thinking about something similar. Hope it works out for you. I'd like to see a picture of what you come up with. I also hope that they find the ones who took your stuff and get your baskets back.
It' would be great to see some of you guys over here for the Downriver event in April.

In His Grip,

Sky Piot
President
SDGA

olydiscgolf · #40 February 11th, 2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sky Pilot

Hey west-siders,

I've thought a lot about what it would be like it we had 7 baskets stolen from one of our courses here in Spokane. I was wondering if all the baskets were bolt cut or just plain wrested out of the ground cement and all?
If they were bolt cut I've been thinking that the various basket companies need to re-configure their designs so that a thief only has one option, and that is dragging it out cement and all. Not many thieves are interested in working too hard.
We're putting in a redesign of the Downriver. I hope (God willing and weather permitting) that we have it done before the Downriver Open - April 10th & 11th.
We just got the green light from the Park Department today. Our board approved a welder and fellow disc golfer to design a way so that the locks cannot be bolt cut. There would be some kind of metal structure around the locks so that a thief couldn't get a bolt cutter on the lock.
Sounds like you guys are thinking about something similar. Hope it works out for you. I'd like to see a picture of what you come up with. I also hope that they find the ones who took your stuff and get your baskets back.
It' would be great to see some of you guys over here for the Downriver event in April.

In His Grip,

Sky Piot
President
SDGA

The solution that TDGPA came up with is a 12" long, 6" diameter pipe with a vertical cut out that is 1/2" wide by 2" long. The cut out is just big enough to get a padlock in.