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Old November 19th, 2008, 09:02 PM
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the silhouette makes it look like he has saggy... umm... yeah.

I'm sure it's gonna be awesome no matter what though.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 09:22 PM
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the silhouette makes it look like he has saggy... umm... yeah.

I'm sure it's gonna be awesome no matter what though.
Yeah, I already noticed that and have given him a double masectomy.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 10:58 PM
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the silhouette makes it look like he has saggy... umm... yeah.
I immediately thought I'd see those ...umm... somewhere before.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 11:33 AM
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Now check out my 5th dye, i spent 5 hours cutting this and I am pretty sure it was worth it. I also put it on my favorite disc of all time the willamette open boss that I pretty much throw for 75 % of my drives. It could have been a little more centered, but oh well, pretty bad ass all the same. Also a special thanks to Adam Shcnieder for helping me figure out how to post the actual image rather than a link...
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Old November 21st, 2008, 12:36 PM
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Shout out to Mike P! THANK YOU for my awesome disc! I love it And now that you know I've gotten it, please feel free to post your art!
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Old November 21st, 2008, 01:12 PM
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Yeah, I already noticed that and have given him a double masectomy.
Don't let him push you around Ryan. At his age it's normal for him to find hoo hahs in everything he sees.

Kick ass artwork.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 01:46 PM
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@Carlitos:

Nice job on the Jager disc! Great improvement over your first 5 dyes. The only thing is that I would like to see the black dye be darker, it will last longer and resist fading longer, and it's just more powerful of an image that way. Let me know if you need any help in that department. Well done.

@Kel:

Yeah, I remember those days like they were yesterday...oh wait...I'm still like that! Dangit!
I spent about an hour and a half on the cutting and the disc has been sitting on my table for the last two days with the vinyl on it ready for bathing, hopefully tonight or tomorrow morning I'll get it wrapped up. I've got 5 more orders to work on this weekend!
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Old November 21st, 2008, 01:59 PM
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Don't let him push you around Ryan. At his age it's normal for him to find hoo hahs in everything he sees.

Kick ass artwork.
I was thinking the same thing about the drawing. And I'm a girl.
I think the drawing's background make his torso appear shorter than in the photo.

Is it a surprise disc dye?
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Old November 21st, 2008, 02:32 PM
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@Carlitos:

Nice job on the Jager disc! Great improvement over your first 5 dyes. The only thing is that I would like to see the black dye be darker, it will last longer and resist fading longer, and it's just more powerful of an image that way. Let me know if you need any help in that department. Well done.
I would love any and all help you could provide, would you suggest less water in the dye, different dye, longer dyeing times, or maybe something else. Seriously appreciated!
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Old November 21st, 2008, 03:07 PM
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Is it a surprise dye?
No, I told him I would dye a disc for him for his B-day, and I showed him the prototype that I drew. I think he was a little surprised, but probably not too much, I did a dye for Haley's B-day as well, so he might have been kind of expecting it?

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I would love any and all help you could provide, would you suggest less water in the dye, different dye, longer dyeing times, or maybe something else. Seriously appreciated!
First tell me how you do it. Times, mixtures, type of dye, etc. That way I know what you need to know!
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Old November 21st, 2008, 03:15 PM
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Here's the one Mike Patrick did for my birthday!
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Old November 21st, 2008, 08:16 PM
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0First tell me how you do it. Times, mixtures, type of dye, etc. That way I know what you need to know!
So I have been using rit dye, powder and liquid, I seem to prefer the liquid as i dont have to spend too much time mixing it versus the powder. I am willing to use a different dye if you have any suggestions. Next I put about 4 cups of water to one package/ container of dye, and heat it for a few minutes on medium until it just barely begins to give heat off the top of the surface of the dye, then i take the heat off and touch the side of the pot and make sure it is not too hot, then I tilt the disc at an angle and lower it into the dye, and leave it for 20 minutes and then use semi hot water to wash and peal the vinyl... any suggestions are seriously appreciated. Thanks mang!
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Old November 21st, 2008, 09:19 PM
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So I have been using rit dye, powder and liquid, I seem to prefer the liquid as i dont have to spend too much time mixing it versus the powder. I am willing to use a different dye if you have any suggestions. Next I put about 4 cups of water to one package/ container of dye, and heat it for a few minutes on medium until it just barely begins to give heat off the top of the surface of the dye, then i take the heat off and touch the side of the pot and make sure it is not too hot, then I tilt the disc at an angle and lower it into the dye, and leave it for 20 minutes and then use semi hot water to wash and peal the vinyl... any suggestions are seriously appreciated. Thanks mang!
I use powdered RIT because it's much cheaper than the liquid. I've used the liquid in the past, and I don't think there is much difference. You can get sharp blacks with either one, if you prefer the liquid, stick with it.

SOLUTION:
I'd say that 4 cups is probably a little too diluted. I use 1 1/2 - 2 cups max. The more water you add, the less potent your solution will be. I have two "dying" pans that I use, both are standard 10" x 2" pans. I usually fill them with approximately 1 1/2" of solution, you don't want the disc to be touching the bottom, obviously, but you don't have too be way far away either.

TIMING & HEAT:
I Always heat the solution to a "heavy steam" level, maybe a minute before it starts to boil. Then I turn off the heat completely and immediately drop the disc in. I let it sit for a couple minutes, pull it out and check for airbubbles, then I immediately put it back in for 5 minutes. After 5 minutes I take it out and check it again to make sure everything is going according to plan. At this point it should be getting dark, but not pure black yet. If everything is still good, I put the heat on a low setting (2/10 or something) and let the disc float on that for 3 minutes, then check, if not dark enough, 2 minutes, check, etc.

The disc will get very warm, and that's ok as long as you are paying attention. Some people might tell you that using this method is an easy way to ruin the disc, and that can be true, if you're not paying attention. I've used this method for all of my dyes, and I've only messed up one disc. That was when I was first starting to dye, and I was goofing around. This will give you PITCH BLACK results.

If you're uncomfortable, try it with a junky disc first!

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Old November 21st, 2008, 09:21 PM
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The way I do it is much the same as others, but here is my specifics. I bring water to a boil. I pour that water into a 2 inch deep tupperware container that fits a disc. whatever color I am using, I only use 1 packet of powdered Rit, and sometimes mix in a bit of liquid dye. I dont use the angled technique as described by others, but i do pick up the disc after a few mins an re soak. i let it soak for an hour or so to achieve the best color, then rinse off and repeat as desired until the color is there.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 03:20 AM
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Hey: Great looking discs. I am an artist and have worked many mediums, curently into wood. This looks very appealing to me and I have been thinking about giving it a try. I have done a little bit of research but found nothing solid. All I seem to find is trial and error methods. Don't care to be waistful because my cash comes as hard as anyone elses. Would there be a chance that you would be willing to share your secrets on the subject? If so great.

Tree Man Lee
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 09:17 AM
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I think any one of us dye artists around here will be more than happy to share our knowledge with you. None of us are into it for the money, although some of us make a few bucks off of it every now and then. give me a bit of time, an i will tell you all my secrets
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 09:21 AM
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Custom order I did for a guy on the East Coast. I think it's a Christmas present for his sig/other.



As always, my fone camera sucks, the disc looks much better IRL.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 08:54 AM
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I was working on a prototype for Mat Crider's birthday present today and came up with this. It's not actually going to look like this, but I thought it was still pretty sweet art, none-the-less. The actual disc will hopefully still be cool in it's own right.


Here's the foto that the silhouette is from...

Here's the final result...I kind of like it, but it didn't turn out quite like I hoped.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 09:48 PM
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I use powdered RIT because it's much cheaper than the liquid. I've used the liquid in the past, and I don't think there is much difference. You can get sharp blacks with either one, if you prefer the liquid, stick with it.
I am not sure what I should be using to cut outlines with? Do you reccomend any kind of product that Ican print images out on to with my computer, the current stuff I am using smears and tears when I cut corners. Also it is kind of thick. Thanks seriously appreciated
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Old November 24th, 2008, 10:43 PM
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gwillim,

That disc turned out great! You can tell it's Mat.

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