Horning's course #3

[Adam Schneider]

Yes, please don't take out the #16 mando; it's unique.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Adam Schneider

Yes, please don't take out the #16 mando; it's unique.

Agreed. But add one on the big downhill (8?) to prevent sidearms and lefties from throwing outside the treeline (and over the next teepad) to easily get down to the basket. Someone's gonna get thumped.

[Bob Horning]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Agreed. But add one on the big downhill (8?) to prevent sidearms and lefties from throwing outside the treeline (and over the next teepad) to easily get down to the basket. Someone's gonna get thumped.

We've placed that area out of bounds, have a sign now saying that, though if that doesn't work we will do a mando there too. You're right, folks should not throw there because of the next tee pad.

[gwillim]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Agreed. But add one on the big downhill (8?) to prevent sidearms and lefties from throwing outside the treeline (and over the next teepad) to easily get down to the basket. Someone's gonna get thumped.

Thanks Jeff...thanks a lot...jerk.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by gwillim

Thanks Jeff...thanks a lot...jerk.

Agreed!

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by gwillim

Thanks Jeff...thanks a lot...jerk.

You just had to gloat didn't ya. Last laugh = mine.

[rob smith]

Originally Posted by gwillim

Thanks Jeff...thanks a lot...jerk.

I second that!! and i haven't played the course yet

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by rob smith

I second that!! and i haven't played the course yet

Yeah, its actually an awesome shot to watch too, but the flight path drops in right over the next tee.

[T-what?]

Awesome course! Played it today and I love the new chain configuration. With the way I putt, I had 2 spit outs(weak side & dead center)the whole round.

[Twitch]

Originally Posted by Adam Schneider

Yes, please don't take out the #16 mando; it's unique.

I have my own two recommendations.

First on 16, if the time comes for multiple basket locations, please place the new location so that the angle is not so acute. It is a whole penalty shot if you can't get the disc far enough beyond the tree. The current basket is fine for the pro tournament location, but for us non pros who enjoy playing the new course, it is a little frustrating to add another shot on an already long hole.

Next on #8, when I was up there on Friday with Andy, Scotty, and Bob; Bob Horning pointed out a LHBH alternate fairway. I saw the line and I had a concern that from the tee it seemed very difficult to get the disc over into the alternate line. You seemed to need to throw from four to six feet to the left of the teebox. Has anyone else who can throw better found this so? Perhaps people could comment about the success of the alternate line and if it needs to be tweaked.

-Mark

[Susie Sunshine]

Bob (and everyone else who had a hand in it), thanks for all of your hard work. I really enjoyed the new course, though I now know why you had that sadistic laugh when we talked about it over the Summer. Haha! I hope to play it again soon.

I love the new chain configuration and can't wait to play the other courses with them.

[Bob Horning]

Originally Posted by Twitch

I have my own two recommendations.

First on 16, if the time comes for multiple basket locations, please place the new location so that the angle is not so acute. It is a whole penalty shot if you can't get the disc far enough beyond the tree. The current basket is fine for the pro tournament location, but for us non pros who enjoy playing the new course, it is a little frustrating to add another shot on an already long hole.

Next on #8, when I was up there on Friday with Andy, Scotty, and Bob; Bob Horning pointed out a LHBH alternate fairway. I saw the line and I had a concern that from the tee it seemed very difficult to get the disc over into the alternate line. You seemed to need to throw from four to six feet to the left of the teebox. Has anyone else who can throw better found this so? Perhaps people could comment about the success of the alternate line and if it needs to be tweaked.

-Mark

Hi Mark,
As far as #16 goes, my options are probably this: make a blue tee route, which would eliminate the mando and allow folks to cut through before the pro mando but make sure they don't try to walk down that steep area (erosion), two is have a second placement very close to the current mando turn, or three list the hole as a blue tee par #6. I mentioned that last option before and there was an outcry from some saying there was no such thing, I don't know yet.

On hole #8 as a lefty you can make that shot from the tee pad, it's tough, almost a heiser from the beginning but not quite. There is one tree there I was not sure about that may be moved, but I can wait on that until the juries in, can't put a tree back up

I do have a poll for hole #7 going on the Hornings Hideout thread if folks want to have input there, it would be appreciated.
later

[Twitch]

Originally Posted by Bob Horning

Hi Mark,
As far as #16 goes, my options are probably this: make a blue tee route, which would eliminate the mando and allow folks to cut through before the pro mando but make sure they don't try to walk down that steep area (erosion), two is have a second placement very close to the current mando turn, or three list the hole as a blue tee par #6. I mentioned that last option before and there was an outcry from some saying there was no such thing, I don't know yet.

On hole #8 as a lefty you can make that shot from the tee pad, it's tough, almost a hyzer from the beginning but not quite. There is one tree there I was not sure about that may be moved, but I can wait on that until the juries in, can't put a tree back up

Thanks Bob,

I agree not to be hasty with the chain saws. It would be cool to make a map of the hole with the trees in their proper places to really understand the lines -- if one does not already exist. Anyway, I will keep practicing the default route with my midrange or putter. The cool thing is for us LHBH, the disc will turn back into the slope and not go out of bounds.

That reminds me, I know that all that young chaparral off to the left will quickly grow. Within a few years, the big hyzer shot out left and then back in, will no longer be an issue once the alder and other small trees top fifteen to twenty feet. In fact, that stuff will get really thick and no one who wishes to keep their disc will want to throw in that direction. Time will kill that view though. It is currently a pretty spot but the table will still be a welcome shady restbit when that time comes.

Thanks again,

Mark

[BSTM]

Good point, even though I think it'll be quite a while till the view is gone.

[Bob Horning]

Originally Posted by Twitch

Thanks Bob,

I agree not to be hasty with the chain saws. It would be cool to make a map of the hole with the trees in their proper places to really understand the lines -- if one does not already exist. Anyway, I will keep practicing the default route with my midrange or putter. The cool thing is for us LHBH, the disc will turn back into the slope and not go out of bounds.

That reminds me, I know that all that young chaparral off to the left will quickly grow. Within a few years, the big hyzer shot out left and then back in, will no longer be an issue once the alder and other small trees top fifteen to twenty feet. In fact, that stuff will get really thick and no one who wishes to keep their disc will want to throw in that direction. Time will kill that view though. It is currently a pretty spot but the table will still be a welcome shady restbit when that time comes.

Thanks again,

Mark

Actually because of the immediate slope you will be looking over trees for quite some time, at least 15 years. The clear cut is already re-planted in fir trees, and they grow about 3 ft a year after the first couple of years. The alder and maples will be sprayed out so the firs can grow. The picnic table will have a veiw for a few years, being it's less slope right there, though the fir trees will alow some viewing through for a while.

[sol]

Originally Posted by gwillim

Played the course today. I think that the course should be a par 59. Hole 7 is a par four in my opinion. I shot a 61. I think the course record will get set at about 56 and stay there for a while.

I played Horning's 3 for my first time the other day, and think it is fantastic. Bob and whomever else was involved have done a great job using topography to create difficult holes. I felt like I played some pretty outstanding golf and shot a 54 (Four 4's including a monster putt on the par five, four 2's and the rest 3's - only one bogey). Felt like one of my more solid rounds ever, interested to see how it stacks up. I tend to agree with Ryan's sentiment, 54felt pretty lights out, but I would love to see some other pro's tear it up.

Hole 7 is definitely a difficult par 3, and will most likely only get two'd by throw-ins from 150 ft and out. In all fairness though, it will also be three'd probably more than it is four'd by most open players. I definitely would approve of some teepad protection on the holes like 3, but I do not think this detracts from the course. May just need some tweaking.

As an amusing side note I was amply rewarded for this good round with my car not starting and having to get towed. Hilarious. Anyway this course is definitely a fantastic challenge, and I am grateful to be able to toss discs on this wonderful property. Thanks to all who made this course happen.