Most Ridiculous prices for discs....

[Scott]

Originally Posted by LJ Jubner

So What does it say when a retailer who knows the game and it's players still over charges for payout?

The good news is If I were pitching a course or getting crap about ..."How the the Tax payers are footing the bill", you would put these two together and then discuss the DG realities both as consumers (supporting the local economy) and park users (users and stewards).

So The conclusion here is this type of business model "gouging" is acceptable just not very ethical.

I had a hard time understanding what you are trying to say here, so I'll take my best guess.

If you are a TD then feel free to gouge away. The market will either support you, or not. If people stop coming to your events then you will either change your ways or stop running tournaments. If people continue to come to your events then you aren't really gouging them because it's clear that is what the market will bear.

[Ol' Bob]

In Sam's "free market," there is only one brand.

[Bruce]

I honestly wish more retailers would charge those prices. Yeah it would be tough to buy discs as often as most of us do, just for the higher prices. However, I and many other people believe it is what our sport needs for real growth. Sure nickles and dimes of profit add up over time, but for major sponsors of our wonderful sport, dollars add up much faster. We don't get sponsors for free, they too are hoping for a return on those invested dollars into our sport.

RAISE YOUR DAMN PRICES!

[snap7times]

Okay, economics ehh?
Cheaper prices = more purchased discs = more rookies trying out the sport = more return on investment from those players... which also = more lost discs = rookies finding lost discs and joining the sport based on found discs or player who lost disc buys more discs

Expensive prices = few to none purchased discs = lost chance of introducing rookies = lost ROI = no one finds potential lost disc or player who could have lost disc dosen't buy more discs...

That's the simply put bad english version...
However, if raising the prices of discs up a few dollars means more money to the sport and it's major tournaments then great, but if it's going straight to the vendor's wallet with no ROI to the sport then booooo, and guess what, Chevron ain't anywhere close to sponsoring anything Disc Golf related anytime soon.... *oops I said which gas station it was*.....

[Scott]

Originally Posted by snap7times

Okay, economics ehh?
Cheaper prices = more purchased discs = more rookies trying out the sport = more return on investment from those players... which also = more lost discs = rookies finding lost discs and joining the sport based on found discs or player who lost disc buys more discs

Expensive prices = few to none purchased discs = lost chance of introducing rookies = lost ROI = no one finds potential lost disc or player who could have lost disc dosen't buy more discs...

That's the simply put bad english version...
However, if raising the prices of discs up a few dollars means more money to the sport and it's major tournaments then great, but if it's going straight to the vendor's wallet with no ROI to the sport then booooo, and guess what, Chevron ain't anywhere close to sponsoring anything Disc Golf related anytime soon.... *oops I said which gas station it was*.....

You make a lot of assumptions, such as if the prices are too expensive then people will not buy discs at all. The will, but they will just choose another vendor. This is not a new concept - it has worked in economies around the world for several hundred (or thousand?) years.

And I'm not sure if peppering the courses with lost discs in hopes that a new player will find them is really the most effective way to grow the sport. I'll have to assume you were kidding on that one.

[Leftybagger]

FYI... Standard price for a Star disc in JNU is 21.99-23.99 and Champion is 19.99-20.99... I believe it is about the same in Anchorage as well.

[snap7times]

Originally Posted by Scott

You make a lot of assumptions, such as if the prices are too expensive then people will not buy discs at all. The will, but they will just choose another vendor. This is not a new concept - it has worked in economies around the world for several hundred (or thousand?) years.

And I'm not sure if peppering the courses with lost discs in hopes that a new player will find them is really the most effective way to grow the sport. I'll have to assume you were kidding on that one.

I meant from that specific vendor and since they are the only vendor in the area........ also as for lost discs, you would be suprised how many people pick up the sport from lost discs finding their way into their hands, but yes i was kidding sort of...

And as for Alaska prices, ouch.... You get free money every year from the oil, so just use that money...

[motherhucker]

You're also forgetting something here. Location is everything. Rocklin, outside of Sacramento, is in Kalleeforneeya. The recommended price there might not necessarily be the recommended price here.

As I recall, we went into a small sporting goods shop in Santa Barbara and the prices were a fair amount higher than they were here. And that's not even counting in sales tax....

[snap7times]

LOL... california is not as expensive as they claim... only thing that is slightly higher is rent and it's only maybe $200 more a month than Portland or Salem... everything else is basically the same. Now if it were the Bay Area then that place is ridiclous and I would never live there...

[LJ Jubner]

Almost Scott, The only difference is If the market remains stable (no pun intended) That is enough new players either don't start and/or the established ones stick around.

[RonTheWhip]

Originally Posted by Sam

Except... I did my research and went with the superior disc manufacturer and left the wannabe discs for the wannabe disc golfers.

Harsh

[chanman]

A bit harsh yes, but true

[JMan]

Discraft bashing aside, Scott is correct Caveat Emptor There is a small store right by Hoover Park, same thing, big prices. I asked if they ever sold any, and she said all the time. Folks see the course, want to play, and don't quibble over price as it is a product they want. No consumer is ever ripped off if they get what they want; if they could have gotten it cheaper they should have known, again, not the retailers problem. I used to work retail, a guy came in, saw what he wanted and brought it to the check out. He complained it was almost ten dollars more than one he saw online. I gave it to him at that price and placed it in a bag and put it on a shelf behind the counter. "WTF," he asked. I told him that if he'd ordered it it would take at least a week to get here, so I'd hold it for him for one week, then he could come and get it, he paid the ten bucks. Sometimes what you're paying for is not just the product, but the connivence.

[Eric Olson]

Originally Posted by JMan

connivence.

[motherhucker]

Originally Posted by snap7times

LOL... california is not as expensive as they claim... only thing that is slightly higher is rent and it's only maybe $200 more a month than Portland or Salem... everything else is basically the same. Now if it were the Bay Area then that place is ridiclous and I would never live there...

Having visited California twice this year, I'd disagree. Gas is higher in California. Sales Tax is much higher. Day use fees are a lot more than $3. And I don't even want to think about how much it costs to see a movie there...

[Scott]

Originally Posted by JMan

Discraft bashing aside, Scott is correct Caveat Emptor There is a small store right by Hoover Park, same thing, big prices. I asked if they ever sold any, and she said all the time. Folks see the course, want to play, and don't quibble over price as it is a product they want. No consumer is ever ripped off if they get what they want; if they could have gotten it cheaper they should have known, again, not the retailers problem. I used to work retail, a guy came in, saw what he wanted and brought it to the check out. He complained it was almost ten dollars more than one he saw online. I gave it to him at that price and placed it in a bag and put it on a shelf behind the counter. "WTF," he asked. I told him that if he'd ordered it it would take at least a week to get here, so I'd hold it for him for one week, then he could come and get it, he paid the ten bucks. Sometimes what you're paying for is not just the product, but the connivence.

You da (J)man!

[snap7times]

LOL, I've been to the store next to Hoover plenty of times, their Champion is 15.99, which is not bad at all for a conveince store, but 23.99 heck yeah bad... and remember california is broken up into many different regions. The Bay Area like I said is yes indeedy marked up on everything, but where I am, same prices as Oregon for just about everything except a few things. Movies are like 8.50, same as Salem last time I checked. Anyways, i guess 25 dollars for a disc is not bad for most of you, so those selling discs, mark up your prices! I was gonna bring a whole bunch of discs to Eugene Celebration and sell them for $10, but now it's $30! yeahhhh...

[Scott]

Originally Posted by snap7times

LOL, I've been to the store next to Hoover plenty of times, their Champion is 15.99, which is not bad at all for a conveince store, but 23.99 heck yeah bad... and remember california is broken up into many different regions. The Bay Area like I said is yes indeedy marked up on everything, but where I am, same prices as Oregon for just about everything except a few things. Movies are like 8.50, same as Salem last time I checked. Anyways, i guess 25 dollars for a disc is not bad for most of you, so those selling discs, mark up your prices! I was gonna bring a whole bunch of discs to Eugene Celebration and sell them for $10, but now it's $30! yeahhhh...

You're missing the point. If this seller is the only game in town, or at least the only one near the course, chances are they will do OK. It doesn't matter at all if prices for other goods and services in the area are comparable to Oregon. If they are able to sell Star discs for $25.99 then the maket has shown that that is a fair price for that area.

With increased competition and a more informed consumer, you likely won't do as well selling your $10.00 plastic for $30.00 at the Celebration.

[snap7times]

yeah, i know, that's why i'll have a "Oregon 65% off sale"... anyways, my point is, the prices were ridicilous, especially with final 9 sports a few miles away... but if they sell discs then whatever...
Anyways, how much is gas in Oregon now?

[Ol' Bob]

Park the Deals on Discs van out front of that store on weekends.