'Mugging' at Sea Tac - Page 2 - Disc Golf

Toby Puttzinski · #21 July 30th, 2009, 05:20 PM

Guess I haven't played Seatac in a bit, but I have never had any problems there or at Lakewood that would require carrying a gun... I run into Grandma walking her dog more than the notorious mini bike gangs of the southside. What are we going to do-- pull out a gun to keep a teenager from stealing a disc? It's not like people are getting attacked, raped, robbed, or intimidated regularly... this was a very isolated incident-- no need for kevlar bags by Gorilla Boy!!

sillybizz · #22 July 30th, 2009, 05:52 PM

There was no need for a gun this time Toby but the point is it is a bad enough area of town that something could happen that might require one some day. I hope I never have to be in that situation and to make a decision like that but I am prepared to do so. I have had many issues at Seatac in the handful of times I have played there with drunk homeless people making fires right next to the basket to feeling uncomfortable with another person in the park to seeing two people in the bushes making what looks like a drug deal.

captain jack · #23 July 30th, 2009, 11:56 PM

I play Seatac almost every week, and have never had any problems there.
Homeless people making campfires ?
Drug deals in the bushes ?
I must have missed those golden moments.

That black kid with glasses on the mini bike is funny looking, he's way too tall to be riding it, he looks like a Shriner on one of those teenie tiny motorbikes they ride in parades.
At least one of the notorious gangsters lives right across from the park, by the 10th hole.

If I want to get scared of the other people in the parking area, and start doing a Paul Kersey style cleanup, I just go to Lake Fenwick.

Tim · #24 July 31st, 2009, 07:24 AM

I gotta agree with Toby and Captain Jack here, I've never felt threatened at SeaTac. A group of us did get to witness a sketchy looking woman making some kind of pick up on hole 17 one day, but she was actually aware of us playing golf and waited for us to take our drives before doing her tweaker strut across the fairway to pick up the stash.

At Lakewood, I've seen some gang members (or at least wannabes) skulking around mad dogging everyone, which is a little creepy, but I haven't seen them mess with golfers at all.

DMajor · #25 July 31st, 2009, 12:59 PM

I have played seatac 10 times in the last couple weeks mostly by myself and have never been worried about or had to deal with a situation having to deal with anything other than a very hard golf course. I've come across a few homeless beds and some kids smoking weed in the trees but I always say hello and have never gotten anything but a positive response from anyone out there. I do keep my bag closer to me these days after reading that story and considering there is usually no one out there at all it's good to be careful.
I've never had any problem at Lakewood either but I was a little scared one day when I was walking up to hole 13 at lakewood and there were four 25-30 yr old heavy set all dressed in blue and heavily gang tatted mexicans sitting on the bench and smoking weed. As I got closer to them I realized they had discs with them so I asked them if I could play through and one of them was like sure and the other three were staring me down like they wanted to stab me. I ended up throwing a perfectly straight buzz that skidded right up to the basket and all four of the guys were like OH SHIT!!! and cheering and laughing. I talked to them just for a minute about disc golf and then went on my way. Later when I was walking by fourteen on my way to seventeen I saw one of them drop a forty footer and he was staring me down like that's right bitch. It was pretty funny. We should give these kids with just a little interest and some time on their hands some discs whenever possible as it just might keep them out of trouble for a little bit.

Sam · #26 July 31st, 2009, 01:20 PM

Wow... another reason to not go to SeaTac... golfers with guns. GREEEAAAAT!

sillybizz · #27 July 31st, 2009, 02:27 PM

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Wow... another reason to not go to SeaTac... golfers with guns. GREEEAAAAT!

I think it's funny how someone with a permit to carry a pistol, which is legal, is more insulting/less accepted then people drinking and smoking weed in the park which is illegal.

Scott · #28 July 31st, 2009, 02:45 PM

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I think it's funny how someone with a permit to carry a pistol, which is legal, is more insulting/less accepted then people drinking and smoking weed in the park which is illegal.

I think it has more to do with violence breeding more violence.

Sam · #29 July 31st, 2009, 03:11 PM

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I think it's funny how someone with a permit to carry a pistol, which is legal, is more insulting/less accepted then people drinking and smoking weed in the park which is illegal.

Yeah... and the next time someone gets killed by a joint or a beer, you might have approached the realm of logic. As of now, however, you sound like the Republican that you are.

sillybizz · #30 July 31st, 2009, 03:15 PM

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I think it has more to do with violence breeding more violence.

I have had my license for many years now and I have never even been in a fist fight in my entire life, I have never taken my gun out in anger and I have never shot anything besides paper and dirt. The difference is Scott that I have a means of protecting myself, not to start anything with anyone else or rob a bank, etc. so your violence breeds violence saying doesn't work for citizens like me that follow the law and only have guns for a way to protect ourselves from someone that would want to hurt us or our families.

sillybizz · #31 July 31st, 2009, 03:19 PM

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Yeah... and the next time someone gets killed by a joint or a beer, you might have approached the realm of logic. As of now, however, you sound like the Republican that you are.

20,000 people every year die from alcohol related car crashes there Sam, and countless more than that die from liver failure due to chronic alcohol abuse. 10,000 people die every year from gun related shootings, I am not sure how many are from illegal or legal guns. Next time you see someone getting wasted and smoking weed playing disc golf and then go and drive thier car home think about that, it could be one of your friends or family that die because of that person.

Sam · #32 July 31st, 2009, 03:22 PM

It's crazy that this country - which allows any yokel to own a gun - has such problems with violence whereas other countries that don't allow ANYONE to own a gun have almost no problems with violence. CRAZY, I tell you.

They should all be confiscated and melted down into plowshares. Hey... it's almost biblical.

Sam · #33 July 31st, 2009, 03:25 PM

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20,000 people every year die from alcohol related car crashes there Sam, and countless more than that die from liver failure due to chronic alcohol abuse. 10,000 people die every year from gun related shootings, I am not sure how many are from illegal or legal guns. Next time you see someone getting wasted and smoking weed playing disc golf and then go and drive thier car home think about that, it could be one of your friends or family that die because of that person.

Yes, yes... I have heard the NRA gobbeldy-gook on this subject and find it all very unconvincing.

But excellent use of the emotion-laden argument. Did you hear that on Faux News or something? Maybe it could be YOUR BABY! YOUR BABY! YOUR BABY!

Here... let me try...

With a gun in your house, there is a chance that one of your children will find it and kill someone else or themself. YOUR CHILD! YOUR CHILD! YOUR CHILD!

Without a gun in your house, there is absolutely zero chance of this happening. Think about that the next time you uh... fondle your piece.

sillybizz · #34 July 31st, 2009, 03:51 PM

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Yes, yes... I have heard the NRA gobbeldy-gook on this subject and find it all very unconvincing.

But excellent use of the emotion-laden argument. Did you hear that on Faux News or something? Maybe it could be YOUR BABY! YOUR BABY! YOUR BABY!

Here... let me try...

With a gun in your house, there is a chance that one of your children will find it and kill someone else or themself. YOUR CHILD! YOUR CHILD! YOUR CHILD!

Without a gun in your house, there is absolutely zero chance of this happening. Think about that the next time you uh... fondle your piece.

I don't trust any news program as you can't trust journalist period no matter where they work, they used to work for the people but that was many years ago before all of our time. I looked it up on my own thank you very much. I am not a nut Sam, I am a pretty rational person, I believe that guns get into the hands of people that shouldn't have them waaaaaaay too often, on most social issues I have liberal views. Republicans say less government, less government, the government should stay out of peoples hair etc. but when it comes to stem cell research or weed or gay marriage all of a sudden big government is the way to go and they want to run your life, they don't have that right IMO. I have always had a more Libertarian view on those style of issues and I think the religious right are a bunch of idiots and the Bush years were horrible (I voted for Gore, then in 2004 I didn't vote because both candidates to me were idiots) so please don't see me as your regular run of the mill Republican spouting the most popular answers and on the issue of guns I again take the more Libertarian approach. There is already a great system put into place for checking the backgroud of people wanting to purchase a firearm and there needs to be more done but please don't limit my right and the rights of people that have proven them self resonsible enough to own and operate a firearm.

OK I think I am done, although I probably forgot something, oh well...

sillybizz · #35 July 31st, 2009, 03:57 PM

Oh I guess my point is that people cry about gun related deaths and it's a major political argument but drunk driving is somehow not as important and to me they both have serious issues and both can and should be prevented.

By the way Sam no hard feelings and I would love to play a round or two with you sometime if I ever come down your way. I would leave the gun at home of course.

jk.

Sam · #36 July 31st, 2009, 04:17 PM

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Oh I guess my point is that people cry about gun related deaths and it's a major political argument but drunk driving is somehow not as important and to me they both have serious issues and both can and should be prevented.

And both should be. Using one to justify the other, however, is not helpful to the actual guts of the argument. Red Herring is what we call that.

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By the way Sam no hard feelings and I would love to play a round or two with you sometime if I ever come down your way. I would leave the gun at home of course.

jk.

As long as the gun is really at home, any time.

sillybizz · #37 July 31st, 2009, 04:21 PM

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As long as the gun is really at home, any time.

Of course, I would never want to put someone in a situation where they feel uncomfortable, I understand the hesitation to be around someone who is carrying a gun, besides I can't take it to Oregon anyway, that's illegal. Not that I need to, it's not Seatac! 99% of the time playing disc golf it is left at home.

Sam · #38 July 31st, 2009, 04:29 PM

Heh... we have courses here that make SeaTac look like Augusta. Rockwood comes to mind.

sillybizz · #39 July 31st, 2009, 04:41 PM

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Heh... we have courses here that make SeaTac look like Augusta. Rockwood comes to mind.

Its ok Sam I will protect you!

Sam · #40 July 31st, 2009, 04:50 PM

No thanks. I saw a guy bring a knife to a knife fight at Rockwood and he was chased away by a short guy holding nothing but a Pro-Line Monster. I have one of those so I am protected, already.