Innova Monarch - DG Equipment

captain jack · #1 May 10th, 2009, 06:36 PM

Its been out for nearly a year now.
Is this just a fad disc for you, that now takes up wall space, or have you found a place for it in your bag ?

I'm curious what other people think it does better than any of thier other discs,if anything, and in what weight do you find it to be most effective for your use ?

Adam Schneider · #2 May 10th, 2009, 06:43 PM

It's a good turnover disc for someone with at least 350' of power. For the rest of us, it's probably too much disc... although the weights do go down to 155g.

zippyboy · #3 May 10th, 2009, 06:59 PM

I was carrying two of these, and now I am back down to one of them. I personally find that this has replaced my Road Runner, though it will never replace my Avenger SSes. I don't find this to be a fad at all, really. The Groove seems to be more the fad disc than the Monarch does, but your mileage may vary.

I would guess by your post that you weren't too impressed with the disc in general? For me, it works for throwing on a course where topography comes into play on some level (Skyline is the best example).

Curious your thoughts...

For the record, the one kept in my bag weighs in at 175g. I had a lighter one in the bag, but I kept flipping that one too much...

captain jack · #4 May 10th, 2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyboy

I would guess by your post that you weren't too impressed with the disc in general?

When I first got it, I was disappointed.
I thought it would be a faster Beast, but it never flew as far as any of my Beasts, so I shelved it.

A month ago I read that it would hold an anheizer line better than other models, so I went and did some field tests. The one thing I was lacking in my bag is a reliable disc to hold a line up and behind my back. I can turn over just about any lightweight disc and get it to go behind me, but its an unpredictable shot that I cant aim with any reliability
I included some formidable opponents in an array of weights for my testing.
After numerous trials, I found it did indeed carry a nice clean line in a graceful hook, with a short finish, perfect for the shot I was looking for.

The more I use it now, the more I see how formidable it is.

The jury is still out on the Boss.

Jester · #5 May 10th, 2009, 08:36 PM

I have been carrying a Monarch for some time now and am really liking it. I just picked up one of the Star TFR Monarchs and it is long and very straight when realeased with a little hyzer. When released flat it has a little fade and then comes back a bit. I have a 172 champion one that holds a better anhyzer line.

aaron · #6 May 10th, 2009, 09:02 PM

I did not like the champ monarch at all. I now have a 170g star that works great on hole 11 and 12 at terrace. With the right line and a little hyzer I can park 11.

Ol' Bob · #7 May 10th, 2009, 10:54 PM

I got a Champ for Xmas and have made it my go-to annie driver.

DrEnigma · #8 May 10th, 2009, 11:27 PM

I have a Champ one as well, and it is my go-to annie driver. I know it will hold onto that line for quite some time, then have a really gentle fade at the end of the flight. I'm throwing one that's 167g, and I recently dyed it with a menacing The Monarch and Dr. Mrs. The Monarch. Personally, I love it.

I agree with you zip--I think a lot of people are "loving" the Groove right now just because it is the latest, fastest thing from Innova. That being said, I like it because it flies just like my old Valkyrie, but much further; I just won't say it is the greatest thing since the consciousness of coitus. It's another fast driver that has a fairly good fade to it. I love the Monarch because it showed Innova doing something they don't do too much (a fast driver that's understable). The Groove is nice, but it is a lot like many of their other offerings--I like it, but it's nothing new.

GettinBetter · #9 May 13th, 2009, 03:37 PM

I really dont see the purpose of the disc other than a backhand roller that will glide out there a ways before touching down.

Ive tried the monach a lot since it came out and my verdict is that the beast is still the best control/turn over disc innova makes.

I also feel that the groove under the disc works better with a wider rim like on the Groove.

BraveRutherford · #10 May 20th, 2009, 04:32 PM

I just picked up a champion monarch and it has a groove like "The Groove." I thought only the Groove had this kind of rim so I figured I'd ask if this normal or did I get a mis-stamped disc?

Adam Schneider · #11 May 20th, 2009, 04:34 PM

The Monarch was the FIRST disc to have the groove.

BraveRutherford · #12 May 20th, 2009, 04:36 PM

Good to know, Thanks

Burge · #13 May 25th, 2009, 11:23 PM

I've had a 171 Champ Monarch in my bag for well over a year now and I love it. Just got an ace with it yesterday (hole 9 at Highbridge; 225' w/ the basket perched on the side of a hill 40' above the tee). Now I guess it will go on the wall since I should get my TFR Star Monarch in the mail tomorrow.

Here's what I've noticed about the disc:

First of all, great disc for windy conditions. No air bouncing.

I have about 350' of power and I find the Monarch to be just a bit more stable than a Sidewinder (but less stable than a Beast), with a much slower fade at the end. It can hold a nice long anhyzer, but it can't take too much angle or it will just keep going and never come back. I can push it out to 350+ with a hyzer-flip, but it also serves well as a fairway driver; with a flat release and not a lot of power it will fly nice and straight.