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Old October 3rd, 2012, 09:51 PM
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Old October 3rd, 2012, 10:36 PM
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Darkhorse should be called team "Nestle"
Like nestle under the basket or Nestle like the Good Food, Good Life ?
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Old October 4th, 2012, 06:19 AM
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Like nestle under the basket or Nestle like the Good Food, Good Life ?
Nestle under the basket. Like Hanley and Hiatt say, Nestle!
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Old October 5th, 2012, 08:15 PM
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Exclamation Saturday has 10 teams again!

And we are back in business!

There is still a spot open on the new team if you know anybody who didn't get to play this year. Talk to Josh Dearing about getting in touch with OTDG's newest captain Zach Richer.

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SSA 51.9 = 10 Ratings Points/Stroke

Dancing Cows Vs Putt It In Your Mouth
OREgrown Vs Disc Golf or Die
Oregon Disc & Wildlife Vs Born2BFly
Droppin Deuces Vs Hylton Baskets
Young Guns Vs Chain Damage

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SSA 50.5 = 10 Ratings Points/Stroke

Discrupters Vs Green Bowl Packers
Rockwood Roughnecks Vs Good, Bad & Sassy
Putt This! Vs Team Skinny
Darkhorse Vs GripLok
Vapor Trails Vs Big Winds

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Remain ye men of faculty complete,
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Or does here stand the last remaining man
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No noble savage, but a stave unbroken
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I’ll not be bent to lawlessness. Mark it nought, if we be men of honour.

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Old October 5th, 2012, 10:12 PM
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Now that we have 8 person teams and the possibility of 4 dubs taking place in 1 match, is it still a requirement to play a singles match for your dubs points to count?
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Old October 5th, 2012, 11:31 PM
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Now that we have 8 person teams and the possibility of 4 dubs taking place in 1 match, is it still a requirement to play a singles match for your dubs points to count?
yes, so that would require all 8 to play both rounds each getting 1 singles and one doubles match...or peeps who played singles in the am could sit out i guess.

old GBP rule: you can't hide a player in dubs

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Old October 8th, 2012, 08:08 AM
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Old October 8th, 2012, 11:27 AM
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so true.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 12:02 PM
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Just a thought, but... do we really need to have 7-somes on the course? Can we go back to the method we used last year where the extra singles people played on a card with others from other teams? I mean... I was able to update my Facebook and check sports scores... during the 20 minute wait on each hole... and that is fun and all... but I would rather golf more.

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Old October 8th, 2012, 12:18 PM
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Just a thought, but... do we really need to have 7-somes on the course? Can we go back to the method we used last year where the extra singles people played on a card with others from other teams? I mean... I was able to update my Facebook and check sports scores... during the 20 minute wait on each hole... and that is fun and all... but I would rather golf more.
Yeah, I'm embarassed that we had a group of 7-8 players each round.
If all the eighth players who can play don't fit on the course with only foursomes then none of them can play. This is pretty ridiculous...

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Old October 8th, 2012, 01:21 PM
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Just a thought, but... do we really need to have 7-somes on the course? Can we go back to the method we used last year where the extra singles people played on a card with others from other teams? I mean... I was able to update my Facebook and check sports scores... during the 20 minute wait on each hole... and that is fun and all... but I would rather golf more.

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Yeah, I'm embarassed that we had a group of 7-8 players each round.
If all the eighth players who can play don't fit on the course with only foursomes then none of them can play. This is pretty ridiculous...

Note to Jordan: More is not better.
Either one of you are MORE THAN WELCOME to come up to the TD table and make this happen. If your time off in the parking lot or warming up on the course is more important than fixing this travesty of justice and you'd just rather whine and complain about it, then it is what it is. BE the change you want to see...

PS Funny how we got done early even with this travesty of justice...

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Old October 8th, 2012, 01:58 PM
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I can say that all of us Darkhorses would much rather play in an 8some as opposed to sitting a round, especially after making the trek out to some of the farther courses like Sorosis.

Question for other players or captains: Will you consider sitting out the bonus match altogether if you have the "extra" players at the course but get the lineup card and don't like the matchup?

Perhaps we were lucky this week that Zimmerman and Griplok agreed up front that they would also play all 8 players during both rounds (thanks Dave and/or you are welcome. I do not look forward to picking who we will list in those optional slots knowing that they will have to wait and see and let the other team decide whether they play. Yes I will put my name there as much as possible but it would still stink.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 02:18 PM
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Either one of you are MORE THAN WELCOME to come up to the TD table and make this happen. If your time off in the parking lot or warming up on the course is more important than fixing this travesty of justice and you'd just rather whine and complain about it, then it is what it is. BE the change you want to see...

PS Funny how we got done early even with this travesty of justice...

I too was concerned about speed of play in the beginning. But the two sets of doubles (8-people on one tee pad) actually seemed to move faster then 4-singles. Playing the best shot, and picking up the bad one moves pretty quick against; Crap, how do I get out of this shot?

We Started at 9:02am and 1:02pm. I had Finished, scores in, chatted with everyone, took a bathroom break at the gas station, and driving west by 4:30pm.

IMHO: I do think I am a fan of 7-person teams. It seems to flow nicely, keeps the people per tee pad down, and gives you more flexibility to avoid forcing everyone to play 1-singles and 1-dubs. Currently, if both teams field 8 people, each player plays 1-dubs and 1-singles per day. Though the 8-people playing Dubs moves quickly, it is embarrassing to me to have 8 on a pad. I feel it is bad golf etiquette, but unavoidable in this configuration.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 02:24 PM
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I can say that all of us Darkhorses would much rather play in an 8some as opposed to sitting a round, especially after making the trek out to some of the farther courses like Sorosis.
Another way to frame this issue is: When did herd golf become acceptable?
We, as experienced golfers, are supposed to set a good example.
And yes, I am willing to help avoid this travesty.

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Question for other players or captains: Will you consider sitting out the bonus match altogether if you have the "extra" players at the course but get the lineup card and don't like the matchup?
Yes.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 02:32 PM
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Question for other players or captains: Will you consider sitting out the bonus match altogether if you have the "extra" players at the course but get the lineup card and don't like the matchup?

98% of the time NOPE

i mean maybe if the weathers decent and i have a chance to chase salmonoids instead maybe
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Old October 8th, 2012, 02:49 PM
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The speed of play probably had a lot to do with where you were at on the course. We had a three card pile up waiting on a 7some during the afternoon round.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 04:51 PM
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I played in an 8-some doubles card in the morning, and we were moving fairly quickly. This was possible because of the short relatively easy course and excellent weather; not to mention very skilled players. This will become a problem once the weather changes and we begin to play longer more difficult courses. The only solution is to ghost the extra players (if we have a full 80 playing) or fill in the gaps with the extras.
As for Mr. Lund's question concerning sitting out people if the match-up is unfavorable. I would be inclined to do it if it was obvious and could cost us the match. But this will vary from week to week and course to course. But if the ability to do so exsists and other teams are taking advantage of this strategy then it would be foolish to not examine this as an option.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 05:25 PM
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OK slow down folks, and do some math: There is an easy way to do this with groups no larger than four: The answer is ghost groups.

18 holes x 4 players = 72 players.
Max # of players if EVERYONE shows up AND plays = 80 players.

Solution: No groups larger than a foursome = use up to two ghost groups if need be.

While ghost groups will inevitably slow the play some, the slowdowns are distributed across the course, so that no wait is ever very long, and no huge gaps of open holes develop. I think ghost groups will produce a smoother flow of play than will groups larger than four players.

If you start your ghost groups on short easy holes that follow long difficult holes, then the slowdown is minimal. Also, start the ghost groups well apart from each other.

How will I help as opposed to just taking pot shots? I will be more than happy to assist in filling out score cards, designating starting hole assignments, etc. See you at the next CSL!
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Old October 8th, 2012, 06:12 PM
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OK slow down folks, and do some math: There is an easy way to do this with groups no larger than four: The answer is ghost groups.

18 holes x 4 players = 72 players.
Max # of players if EVERYONE shows up AND plays = 80 players.

Solution: No groups larger than a foursome = use up to two ghost groups if need be.
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!
Thanks Treelove for the sanity check and excellent idea. I'm in.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 07:51 PM
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OK slow down folks, and do some math: There is an easy way to do this with groups no larger than four: The answer is ghost groups.

18 holes x 4 players = 72 players.
Max # of players if EVERYONE shows up AND plays = 80 players.

Solution: No groups larger than a foursome = use up to two ghost groups if need be.

While ghost groups will inevitably slow the play some, the slowdowns are distributed across the course, so that no wait is ever very long, and no huge gaps of open holes develop. I think ghost groups will produce a smoother flow of play than will groups larger than four players.

If you start your ghost groups on short easy holes that follow long difficult holes, then the slowdown is minimal. Also, start the ghost groups well apart from each other.

How will I help as opposed to just taking pot shots? I will be more than happy to assist in filling out score cards, designating starting hole assignments, etc. See you at the next CSL!
I will fully stand behind this. 6 people to a pad for myself is not a fond thought
either ghost groups or have mixed teams playing singles matches.
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