Originally Posted by Big dawg 99
So what i see you are saying is that a buzzz is like a used car off the back lot.
And a roc is like a new car off the show room floor, not off the back lot
Sounds like the roc has great value and the buzzz is not on car facts
show me your roc facts.to many titles to list.
Nope, what I am saying is that NO ONE wants to throw a brand new Roc because it doesn't fly the way they want it to. They have to throw the disc (poorly) so that it hits enough trees to finally start to act like the disc they want it to. Which happens to be how a Buzzz throws right out of the box.
As for the argument from DMajor, he made my point exactly. You don't don't count on a new Roc out of the box because (A) it doesn't fly like your beat in tuned Roc (Buzzz flight) and (B) it is hard to say exactly just how over stable it will be because you just never know from run to run.
You see, it's not that I play with a brand new disc all the time, but it is awesome for a player to buy a disc, know how it is going to throw right out of the box and hold that line of throwing in its lifetime (Thank you Z and ESP plastic). Sure, you can take that DX Roc and beat it into submission so that it now throws properly (like a brand new or used Buzzz) but don't smack another tree with it because then it becomes your turnover Roc and now you have to work on getting another favorite Roc ready for your bag.
So yeah, bring out your 8 different Rocs that all fly differently, I will bring my Buzzz (only one needed) and we can have a little fun. I will say that all kidding aside (which is what this has all been), if you are not a sponsored player, you owe it to yourself to try all discs no matter what brand. Don't be swayed by blind loyalty as you may miss out on a really great disc (I.E. I really think the Northman is an awesome driver that a lot of people would probably love to throw). The last time I went back East, it was amazing how almost everyone's bag was Innova drivers and Discraft mids. So have fun and try 'em all!
See ya' soon!
Scott "Buzzz lover" Papa