Oregon State Championships

[Sam]

Oh yeah... was that the event that was all screwed up because of the CB radio people or was that the other "state championship"?

[all2common]

That was Jabber's tournament that got all screwed up...

[Sam]

Sorry... all of these "state championships" seem to blend together...

[Magilla]

Originally Posted by Sam

Oh yeah... was that the event that was all screwed up because of the CB radio people or was that the other "state championship"?

OK...Hows this...

I will talk to Jerry within the next few days and THEN we will be able to move forward...one way or the other.

PLEASE refrain from ALL Jerry/Disc Golf Depot bashing on this subject. It does not help at all

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Magilla

WHEN I decide to pursue this I will call Jerry myself......

WE will NOT just take it.......WE may have to "creatively" name it, but lets hope not.

.....discuss.....

When YOU decide? Hmmmm...

[Sam]

You're right, Mike. My apologies.

[Magilla]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

When YOU decide? Hmmmm...

Well....someone requested that I look into it.
Someone else suggested that maybe the "State Coordinator" could also deal with this issue.


AND unless my memory fails me.............Some people would like it to be PDGA Sanctioned.

But then you would know SOME of these things had you attended my "Discussion" session at Dexter prior to Awards



Now if you would prefer a PDGA representation more in line of what you had the past 4 yrs, just let me know......

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Flatroc

Scott, this is nothing personal against you or the ORS.
I don't think it would be fair to the golfers in K-Falls, Coos Bay, or even the remote town of Remote if this were to happen.
It seems with the "qualifiers" getting first crack at ORS events, the field would only consist of the "elite" group that is starting to form.
Stand away from the "tee box " for a bit and imagine how many potential state champ golfers are out there that either don't know or care about the ORS. (again nothing personal).
I think it should be wide open to ANY DISC GOLFER in the state.
IMO it would get boring to compete against the same ol same ol's again and again and again.
One idea might be to have it a one day event (ams one day, pros the next).
This way you could get more golfers to attend.

I see your point. Allow me to state mine.

To me, the title "State Champion" sounds like a pretty big deal. At least it should be. When you take the title away, you're talking about a just another tournament. Is the winner of a one day tourney at Timber or Milo a better golfer than the winner of the BSF? Not necessaryily. In most cases, probably not.

Sam mentions elsewhere in this thread that everyone else crowns their champions this way. So? We always talk about ways to push Oregon to the forefront of the national DG scene - here's a chance to be different and exciting in a meaningful way.

What about a smaller series....Three tournaments; one north, one central, one south. The winner of the series is a state champion that had to show sustained excellence on a variety of courses. I'm thinking Whistler's in August, Adair in September (Hyzer Pines , or Dexter would work nicely here, too) and Milo in October (or Dabney).

I'm just tossing stuff around.. There are tons of great possibilities.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Scott

I see your point. Allow me to state mine.

To me, the title "State Champion" sounds like a pretty big deal. At least it should be. When you take the title away, you're talking about a just another tournament. Is the winner of a one day tourney at Timber or Milo a better golfer than the winner of the BSF? Not necessaryily. In most cases, probably not.

Sam mentions elsewhere in this thread that everyone else crowns their champions this way. So? We always talk about ways to push Oregon to the forefront of the national DG scene - here's a chance to be different and exciting in a meaningful way.

What about a smaller series....Three tournaments; one north, one central, one south. The winner of the series is a state champion that had to show sustained excellence on a variety of courses. I'm thinking Whistler's in August, Adair in September (Hyzer Pines , or Dexter would work nicely here, too) and Milo in October (or Dabney).

I'm just tossing stuff around.. There are tons of great possibilities.

I do like that idea, but how about this spin on it.

What if you took the top five finishers from each division at each Oregon Series event and gave them an invitation to the Oregon State Championships at the end of the season. If someone in the top 5 already has an invitation then the invite would trickle down... USDGC style.

This way you would get the top tournament players for each division playing in the big show at the end of the year.

Just food for thought...

[proto something or other]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

What if you took the top five finishers from each division at each Oregon Series event and gave them an invitation to the Oregon State Championships at the end of the season. If someone in the top 5 already has an invitation then the invite would trickle down... USDGC style.

I could get behind that. This style would allow the people from all parts of the state to qualify.

[snap7times]

so we talking 144 player field or 288? If there were 2 courses, 72 at each. Tee off early in the morning, get 4 rounds in, 2 each pool, 2 days straight. That be 288 players playing 4 rounds in 2 days on 2 courses. Could invite top 5 winners from all Tier B and up tourneys and top 3 from C tier tourneys until quota is met for each division etc. Just brain storming.
Like say
Master Open 16
ADV master 16
Grand master 8
ADV grandmaster 8
Men open 36
women open 12
MA1 24
MA2 24
MA3 16
FW1 12
FW2 8
FW3 8
=188, leaving 100 extra special invites etc... Just brainstorming... throwing Hurricane Juanita in here...

[Tim]

Just browsing through this, good ideas here. However, I think this idea of the top 5 finisher, invitational thing would be better suited as a different entity than a state championship. More like the Player's Cup at the end of the season on the national scene. Also, I think it would have more rapport with the players if it were a smaller, more exclusive event, i.e a privilege that only the best get to play in.

[Magilla]

Originally Posted by Tim

Just browsing through this, good ideas here. However, I think this idea of the top 5 finisher, invitational thing would be better suited as a different entity than a state championship. More like the Player's Cup at the end of the season on the national scene. Also, I think it would have more rapport with the players if it were a smaller, more exclusive event, i.e a privilege that only the best get to play in.

The PDGA Match Play Championships will go this direction.
The intent is that the Top 64 players will be in the field, eventually.
With qualifiers, etc. + Wildcard Spots..........etc....

What I do like is the possibility of a "Roaming" Championship, where a different Club hosts it each yr. Late Fall would be the best time frame, since the Series is over and the schedule has slowed down abit by then.

[Cherokee]

Do you have to live in the State of Oregon to compete?

[Sam]

I don't think you should have to live in Oregon to compete, no.

[Flatroc]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Well, to be honest I did win my division (Intermediate) in a non-sanctioned Oregon State Championship. I'm not in ANY way criticizing Jerry Miller at Disc Golf Depot because, as always, he ran a great tournament, but it always bothered me that his tourneys were not sanctioned.

I realize it is a personal preference, but I really just prefer playing sanctioned events. I like the fact that my rounds are rated and I can refer back to them at a later date and see how my game has (or has not) progressed.

So how did it feel when you won?

Did you feel like an Oregon state champ?

[Flatroc]

Originally Posted by Magilla

I would be VERY interested in getting info/speaking to individuals involved in previous Overall event in Oregon.

This is from the "Valley Golfer" newsletter 1991 fall issue
Results (UDA members only)
Oregon Overalls 8/31/91 field = 31
Estacada, Or. light drizzle
7th Bruce Sisson - 66.5 pts, 2nd place distance w/ a 319'
8th Zane Hoffman - 59 pts, 2nd place MTA w/ 8 min. 53 seconds
10th Brian Riley - 50.5 pts
14th Ernie Szeremi - 46.5 pts
19th Michael O'con - 36.5 pts
22nd Steve Wright - 29 pts 2nd place adv. golf

I have some newsletters that Bart used to send out with more stats but they're hiding at the moment.
I hope this helps somehow.

[DexterHawk]

I think the qualifying thing would be rad... Just like at the USDGC you could have qualifying tournaments... ORS yes, but also a couple in Southern Oregon and around to met the needs of all the clans... I also really like the idea of a travailing tournament...

On a completely different but also Oregon State Championship mode... we need to have a team based competition for city bragging rights... I'm thinking 18 person teams... match play, doubles, stroke play format... There can be as many teams as people can orginize... i.e. 3 from portland 1 from Albany... and you could make requirements like teams must have 3 women, one player older than 50, one player with no rating, two players below a 900 rating and so forth to encourage teams to bring new and different players into competitive play.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Flatroc

10th Brian Riley - 50.5 pts

Just to close a little circle for you, Yose... Brian Riley is the brother of one of our members here, Cherokee.

[Flatroc]

Originally Posted by Sam

Just to close a little circle for you, Yose... Brian Riley is the brother of one of our members here, Cherokee.

Right on.
I don't remember if I've met him or not.
It's been many putts since I've seen "Big Briley".
Greetings to Cherokee Riley.