Originally Posted by Yoduh
7 and 8 is dangerous. I see the best move being moving 7's teepad forward or moving it up next to the bottom of the hill of hole 8. Putting the tee of 7 where 8's basket is makes the hole a routeless non risk reward par 3.5. A hole that would work but would not separate skill level in an appropriate, measureable, consistent design. There would be no preferred shot other than to lay up. make an upshot and take a 3. It would also still be in danger of people throwing off of 8. The hole as it stands has quite a bit of luck. involved to get a 2 but it is gettable. During the DRO I took a flippy wraith RBH and threw it 2/3 of the way down the fairway and made my up and got 3 3's. It was birdied a couple times and there were many 4's and a few 5's. The proposed change would eliminate the 2 and cause players to throw safe drives which would increase the number of 3's and decrease the number of 4's and eliminate most 5's. These changes will create a smaller scoring swing and less separation of scores. Making a boring hole basically. Similar to hole 2 at the DRO except without any birdies at all.
You are completely correct in your reasoning about #7...
thanx for the explanation rather than just saying it didn't work, out of hand.
Moving the tee up as you suggest could definitely increase the number of birdies (depending on the position) or could make the hole a much more technical shot, keeping much of the scoring range while limiting the distance and danger.
I would love to see the locations you have in mind.
As for #8, it would open up that entire area...
other ideas anyone?