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Old February 24th, 2011, 08:23 AM
LJ Jubner
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As course designers now The MC Boys can design and set par to whatever level they want. I will show up, pay, play and whine about how poorly I played not about how par is all screwed up.

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Originally Posted by Skookum View Post
Oh and I still believe "par" is not something you set. You don't just look at a 200ft hole in an open field a decide its a par 5. Holes and course should be built so the average strokes from your relative tee pad creates the desired par. I.e. if Seatac was designed to be a par 54 from what I believe to be Blue(SSA 50-54) tee pads then the course needs to be adjusted because there is more than enough proof that the mark has been missed. Personally I think the space warrants the use of par 4s, maybe find a way to stretch it to a par 60, I would prefer to see that over any shorting.

Courses should be as the saying goes "built to par" and we should all go play with the intention of being better than par, after all, who's goal is to be just average?
"Par has been missed"
thats a good one maybe if you threw farther or putted better or maybe just...

There is a huge difference between tournament stroke play and handicapped stroke play. The real problem is the stupid rating debate. By using a handicap
  1. you are already trying to level the field artificially
  2. to make your series more attractive competition wise
  3. not skill driven like it should be.

I find it interesting that at any Ball golf course you just show up, pay and play. NO mention of what my par should or should not be. Want to have some fun
Go into any Golf Pro shop and tell them par at their course is too low for your game. Know what they would say to you? Maybe some lessons or the pitch and putt around the corner is better suited for your skills.
FYI
  1. In Ball golf the average player is 18 over
  2. 80% of all ball golfers will never ever break par
  3. Realistic goals most want to just break 80

In DG we whine about par. Raise the par at the Tac and you will see a 1200 rated round.

Like Dan said "my personal best is my goal" If it's better than par great if not thats great too. It's still my personal best.
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