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Old February 19th, 2010, 08:11 PM
Parks
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Sure, I'll elaborate. This is going to be a long post.

We just need to plan this intelligently.

I'm going to make a few assumptions that I'm going to base my idea on.

1) People wishing to understand the terminology and basic course needs have at least read http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/PDGACourseDesignGuides2009.pdf or a similar document, and understand our disc golf community.

2) Blue level or harder courses may only appeal to the more competitive element of our disc golf community. In terms of course use and time/money contributed to course improvement, these players represent the largest portion of our disc golf community. However, compared to the actual number of people that play disc golf at least a few times per year they are proportionally small.

3) Red or easier courses fall into basically two categories: they are near abandoned and severely underused, or they are full of people throwing on each other, drinking, making asses of themselves, and generally not respecting the course or other park users to a much worse degree than you see at courses with more competitive/respectful golfers. I saw all of the latter stuff today when I played Corbin Park, and have seen the former at multiple courses while traveling.

4) We currently have two public courses in the area that are both basically White level courses. We should strive to fill the holes in our course lineup by creating a place for Red players and Blue/aspiring Blue players. We should also try to create unique holes. We are currently low on or completely missing tunnel shots, elevation shots, roller opportunities, long holes with distance lines available, and par 4's and 5's.

5) We need to plan for the future, because we will not have unlimited access to money or land. We also should use as much of the land available to us as possible for the same reason as above. Using the land well in the first design can avoid problems and the need for forced or sloppy redesigns in the future.

6) A near optimal solution is to create an 18 hole course with both Red and Blue tee pads and an alternate pin for every hole.

Given that 18 extra tee pads adds about $2k to $3k to the cost of a course, and alternate pins can only be used %50 of the time, neither is a reasonable solution right now.

So here is my practical proposition for solving all known issues at the People's Park/West Hills area: Design the course layout for a Blue course with Red alt. tee pads, but create two 9-hole loops; one with the Blue tees installed and one with the Red tees installed. Try to use the West Hills area for 3-6 holes since we can do elevation shots there and open up more of People's Park for the remaining course. This will cost the same as any 18 hole course.

This is a solid solution for several reasons: We create a good nine hole course for Red players. In my experience, many families or organizations playing disc golf don't really have the desire to play a full 18 holes because of the large age diversity and emphasis on fun over golf score. Also, we will create a course without the safety issues that have plagued other community friendly courses that weren't planned by a quality club (anyone remember North Idaho Community College's course?). A nine hole Red loop also makes a great warm up course for more experienced players, who can help the other users learn golf etiquette and show them how to respect the course and other park users. Curious recreational players today are our competitive golfers and sponsors tomorrow.

We also create a nine hole Blue course loop where the people who wish to improve their game can challenge themselves. We also avoid the stigma of putting out an 18 hole Red course and then having the players that have contributed all their money for a new course not get one that they can enjoy. The money for doing something at Camp Sekani is probably at least a year out, maybe more, and getting more contributions from people that are not happy with a full Red course at PP may be difficult.

Players can play either nine hole loop or the full 18, depending on their preference and skill level.

This also lets us plan well for the future. After we have put in the course(s) at Camp Sekani, then we can revisit PP when we have the money to put in the remaining 9 or full 18 tee pads. By then, we will also be able to judge if we need to make either course easier/more difficult and can fine tune the new tee pads as such, and we will also be able to determine if the new tee pads are even necessary.

If there are any major problems with this solution, then by all means post your concerns here.
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Last edited by Parks; February 19th, 2010 at 08:21 PM.
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