Originally Posted by LJ Jubner
On 14 try throwing hyzer off the box. It opens up the hole
To where? Behind the "fence" of trees? If you make it past the fence, there are some lines to be had, but being a foot or two in any direction can rule those lines out. Some shots might yield a better chance of having a line than others, but it's always a gamble--you can never really be sure if you had a good shot or not until you get to your disc.